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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The problem is kids sacrifice so much that had they known that they could sacrifice much less and enjoy their high school experience and have a similar or comparable college outcome. I think they would do it differently.

Grinding away to get into a top school and then to end up at your Flagship can feel disappointing when you would’ve gotten into the Flagship with 50% of the effort.[/quote]

This. It doesn’t mean the kid falls apart if the state flagship is where he ends up, but it is not where the kid wanted and - as said above - could have likely been achieved with much less effort over many years.

This is how my kids felt about uva even though it’s a great school. It’s not uva they didn’t want, they didn’t want that to be the result of their effort or they would have modified their effort. [/quote]

Again, had they “modified their effort” they wouldn’t have gotten in.  [/quote]

I don’t think that’s really true. There is a different level of working commitment needed to be in the running for a top 10 school versus UVA. You can still be well academically without having to kill yourself on the research and extracurricular funds in creating worldwide impact. And still get into UVA. I say this is someone from out of state. [b]The kids from our private who get into UVA and end up there do not have other top tier options.
Same for Michigan.[/b] [/quote]

Since this is anonymous I will just say this frankly. The sub-set of kids that are very smart, popular, non-geeky, social, and sporty choose Michigan or UVA over “top tier” options due to fit. They want top academics, Greek life, parties, huge sports events in a fun college town. That just isn’t happening at most top schools these days. People say Duke or Northwestern are still like this, but that is not we are hearing from kids that currently attend. [/quote]

They aren’t “choosing” uva over a top tier school, they are either applying there (to go with a safer top choice rather than risking throwing away an ed at a highly rejective school) OR were rejected from a better ranked school (and still not choosing uva).

It’s a great school, but the kids who worked really hard in HS often want the chance at a better ranked school, esp if cost is not a factor.[/quote]

Not choosing to apply is, in fact, choosing. Your premise is that they are only applying to UVA or Michigan because it is safer or they couldn’t get into anything better. The arrogance is insane here. Some kids PREFER a large state school. Smart kids that have just as much of a chance at an Ivy as the kids getting into Ivies. [/quote]

Uh, of course applying to uva over an ivy is a safer option. How can you say it is not?

Do you think if you took the top ranked kids from HS who are going to uva and said: you can uva or Yale, no risks, you’re in and can afford only one, almost all would say uva? Almost none? [/quote]

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