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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A lot of children, even children of highly educated, high SES parents, are coming to school without foundational skills—age appropriate self-regulation, fine motor skills that support writing, the ability to engage in productive struggle. It seems like parents are living higher stress lives and less able to engage with their children. We’re also seeing a LOT more anxiety in kids, which is affecting attention and memory in the classroom. It may have to do with shifting social norms and trauma from the pandemic, but it has nothing to do with schools having been closed.[/quote] This is not the pandemic. This is the bad preschools who parented to do play based learning and the kids don’t learn the foundations there. Kids need academic based at least at age four. [/quote] That is a crazy take - kids need healthy play at that age. The academic-oriented preschools are a new phenomenon. Things that used to be taught in 1st grade are now trickling down to being taught in pre-K, at the expense of appropriate development. [/quote] +1 Kids need unstructured outdoor time— hours of it— language exposure, books, and proper socialization. Our daughter was in forest school and was reading fluently before K. [/quote] Don’t pay yourself on the back. Like walking, there is a wide range of when kids learn to read. It’s largely developmental, not academic. Of course up to a point. By 9 all kids should be reading fluently, but whether a kid can read fluently by 3-5 or 6-8 indicates nothing about their intelligence. [/quote] I’m not patting myself on the back, I’m disputing the idea that children need “academic” pre-K in order to succeed, which is the post I was responding to. That is developmentally inappropriate for most children.[/quote] It's not developmentally inappropriate. And, you cannot complain that your kids aren't prepared and not consider the type of preparation they had. Kids can still play and have fun and learn at preschool. This anti-education stance is why kids struggle. The lack of homework for reenforcement, lack of reading at home and expecting schools to do it all.[/quote] This is the REASON public schools exist. To educate children, regardless of their parents ability to do so. The idea was to give every child a roughly equal playing field whether their parents were illiterate, non-English speaking, or educated and reading to them at home. We seem to have shifted and now parents are expected to do the nitty-gritty of educating at home while school is a holding pen where kids watch YouTube, take mindfulness breaks and play math games. This isn’t what I want my tax dollars to pay for.[/quote] It's because many kids can't, won't, don't learn that all this tech was introduced haphazardly into the classroom. All the programs they install on these devices are gamified low IQ nonsense, basically handholding electronic babysitters that have bells and whistles. An actual 12 year old babysitter could probably teach better than the apps. If parents were doing their jobs or... if schools were more traditional in their teaching and tracking, the majority of kids at every level would have learned better and there would be less complaining about teacher lesson plans or the heavy reliance on devices. Unfortunately, so many clueless parents shouldn’t be having kids and the schools have become social experiment centers where everybody loses together but nobody fails.[/quote]
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