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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]China's nominal GDP per capita in 2024 was $13,300. Do you enjoy being poor, OP? [/quote] So stupid. Their cars, roads, and taxi, bus, train, and plane infrastructure is way better. I was there in the late 90s and in 30 years they have literally transformed dozens of cities way more populated and advanced than American ones. [b]They have a surplus of educated citizens so they have to export them to the rest of the world.[/b] These people literally become a global network of trade and services. They've learned from the Japanese and Korean economic policies. As seen in other Asian economic miracles, democracy will come later.[/quote] Their people flee their country and don't want to go back to live there. How very strange -- you'd think it would be the opposite, given that the homeland is a paragon of virtues. [/quote] Where exactly are your stats on that? You sound racist. The poor people come here to work and live just like 150 other countries in the world. But so many educated Chinese on student visas go back to China. I hope you're not confusing with the Taiwan(#1)ese or Hong Kongers. Asians will dominate the future world because they are more hard working, their citizens are smarter, and the governments plan ahead better. In several Asian countries, entirely new cities have been created almost overnight because there was a need for them. How many brand new cities have been created in America in the past 100 years? China offers more support to returning overseas students as influx grows [url]https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3336586/china-offers-more-support-returning-overseas-students-influx-grows[/url] China has launched a national-level service platform to help returning overseas students find work and start businesses, as the country steps up its efforts to attract talent and the number of returnees surges. The Ministry of Education has partnered with 50 organisations to provide returnees with entrepreneurial mentors and match them directly with local government and corporate needs.[/quote] Talk about propaganda. —DP “ The number of people from China seeking asylum worldwide has risen sharply in the past decade, according to the U.N.” https://projects.voanews.com/china-exodus/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20Office%20of%20the%20United,*%20**Canada's%20Prince%20Edward%20Island**%20*%20**Ecuador** “In 2023, more than 37,000 Chinese immigrants were detained for attempting to enter the United States illegally, more than the past 10 years combined.” https://uscnpm.org/analysis/chinese-immigration-to-the-united-states-past-present-and-future/#:~:text=Chinese%2520citizens%2520struggling%2520to%2520find,things%2520are%2520going%2520in%2520China.%E2%80%9D There’s a lot more data out there for your edification. [/quote] The Chinese population is a billion. You're talking about thousands. And those are specific populations. Economic growth doesn't come without sacrifices and uneven growth. Show me an example where that wasn't true. Your examples and your fake horror are ridiculous. White people still haven't given blacks complete freedom in America. We're not even talking about the 250 years of free labor (along with the 75 years of de facto very cheap labor) that built the American economy. This is 2026. There are still: Economic policies that oppress blacks. Education policies that oppress blacks. Uneven application of laws that oppress blacks. Drugs and cigarettes being pushed into black neighborhoods. etc etc. Ironically, if black people hadn't made the American economy the strongest in the world, many of them would probably have migrated to England or whatever other economy was dominant.[/quote] LOL. Spoken like a true MAGA. Like China isn't doing the same. You can't even get citizenship if you're born to double Han parents. Poor students in rural communities aren't allowed to study in Beijing. There isn't even a whiff of a Chinese dream there. China's shit smells as bad as the US's, and was definitely worse pre-Trump 2.0. [/quote] MAGA? You're fkn ingorant. There's only one way for a country to succeed in a world that is deliberately constrained by protectionist organizations like the G7, OECD, IMF, and WTO. Think of all the successful non-European post-WWII economies. If you don't understand then read some about how they got there. And about this dogging on countries that are trying to catch up, you can't rape and pillage for 100s of years, destroy the environment, and use up all the easy to acquire natural resources and then demand that the developing countries that you destroyed can't do what you did in order to grow and succeed. Shouldn't they get the gift of 500 years of imperialism as well? No one's defending China's human rights or anything else. But you can't impose that other countries shouldn't have the benefit of 500 years of world wars and all the other bullshit that made certain economies great. You can only hope that through diplomacy and concessions, they will mostly play nice.[/quote] Why is the economy more important than human rights, than democracy? Again, you're sounding like a broligarch. [/quote]
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