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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So here's the deal. Other countries like Europe appear to have free services etc but the reality is they are subsidized by the us and don't have to pay for the military etc even we pay more for healthcare drugs and products because we are subdizing other countries. When the us stops this those countries will get invaded and fall apart and no longer have cheaper services [/quote]

Do you actually believe this nonsensical propaganda?  You actually believe that Europeans have a social safety net because we are keeping them safe?  We don’t have a social safety net because that’s what Americans vote for. Do you love kool aid that much?  Think about things for at least 3 minutes before you bother typing it out please.[/quote]

They have a social safety net because they have high levels of taxation and devote little of their tax revenue to their own defense.  They spend what they have on extensive social welfare.  That's fine if you're happy with a uniformly modest quality of life which is unrelated to how hard you work, the initiative you show, or your level of ambition.  If "good enough" isn't what you aspire to, you'll be disappointed that the fruits of your hard work go to support your lazier neighbors.  [/quote]

As a Euro transplant here: the above is partly true. But as the cost of healthcare and public services rises in Europe, authorities are paying very close attention to Americans wanting to move in and enjoy the fruits (free healthcare) of what others have paid for through years of high taxation. [/quote]

Are any charging more bc retirees haven’t paid into their system? Will they start taxing g Americans (I understand some don’t force expats to pay their nation’s taxes in addition to US taxes. I could see that going away or as a carrot.[/quote]
dp. I've looked into two countries to move to. If you want to use the government sponsored healthcare, you have to pay an annual fee, which is still a hell of a lot cheaper than insurance premiums here.

But, I'd rather go private. The insurance and paying oop there is still so much cheaper than paying for my hdp premiums and deductibles, and copays, and coinsurance.. just an endless freakin' money grab by greedy m*erf*ers in this country.

Why do we pay more for the same drug compared to other countries?  Because greed.  Like I said, the US is good for making money. That's about it.[/quote]

People who can afford often pay for private care in countries with socialized medicine.  Wait times can be long, the standard of care substandard.  Those who can afford to go elsewhere.  27% of the French have private insurance, 28% of Spaniards, 37% of New Zealanders, 50% of Australians, etc.

Additionally, despite the name, universal coverage means all residents have health insurance, but it does not mean health care is free. In many countries people contribute to health care costs through both out-of-pocket expenses—such as copays, coinsurance, and deductibles—as well as insurance premiums. Even in countries with universal coverage, residents often have at least nominal out-of-pocket costs.  [/quote]

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