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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why is APS hobbling AT out the gate by colocating with students with absentees issues, criminal records, drug use and court mandated treatment, and students up to the age of 21?

My 7th grade DD is a nerdy science loving kid, but this mixed environment makes it a non starter for us. [/quote]

HB has been colocated with an English Language Learner program with students up to age 21 for many years, meaning you have 11 year olds in the same building as 20 year olds. Seems to work out ok. [/quote]

Always heard about Stratford program. What ELL program is colocated at the Heights?[/quote]
My kid is at HB and it looks like it's just the support system in place for the kids who need those services and win the lottery but I'm not positive. BTW, my kid loves having the Shriver students co-located. [/quote]

No that is not correct. There are students in a specific ELL program at HB and they are up to age 21 (at least). They do not get in through the regular lottery. [/quote]

Why cant you post a link about this program?[/quote]

I don't think there's a link for it. You don't publicly apply like the lottery. APS places the students who need it into it. It appears to be recent arrivals with high language needs. It shows up in the budget so if you're that interested you can find it there. [/quote]

Hiding things in the budget is very sus.

So there is a hidden undocumented backdoor into HBW, not a separate ELL program at the Heights? How do they end up with 21 year olds in such a niche program? I cant believe it happens nearly as often as Langston program. [/quote]

Opportunity hoarder. [/quote]

Wanting programs out in the open with clear processes is hoarding opportunities?

But back to original question about 21 year olds at HBW. It sounds like its for ELL, and is a niche slice of the school, versus the core mission of Langston. I would suspect there may have been a coupe of 19 year olds over the last decade, but I guess without documentation on eligibility its hard to know how the ELL program functions. To be 21, they would enter their freshman year AS ADULTS at 18. Really? That is happening at HBW?[/quote]

Some red shirted kids graduate at 20. [/quote]

I think 19 at graduation would be the max age from regular redshirting.[/quote] My friend's son redshirted and then held him back a year. So he will be 20 when he graduates from Yorktown.[/quote]

Thanks for clarifying. So 20 must be the current max age in APS for the high schools. It used to be 19. [b]ELL students in the programs[/b] (not the comprehensive schools) [b]aren't subject to that age limit[/b]. [/quote]

So essentially, the participants in this program are older teens or adults who don’t speak English?  Because they put even middle school aged kids with zero English in the regular schools who benefit from the intensive ELL resources and teachers at every school…  The question is why do adults and old teens require a full time separate school/admins/building space all financed by APS?  Why can’t Arlington County take this over with their existing progressive language county classes? [/quote] I didn't know about the ELL pathway but the programs are peppered throughout the system. Its in the neighborhood transfer doc.[/quote]

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