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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Thanks everyone, I wanted to come back to a few things.

One is that I read here people saying that fat and protein are issues, but when I put the data for what she eats into the cronometer app, it comes back at high levels for those two nutrients.

The place where I had more the most trouble getting enough in were iron, calcium, and vitamin D (although my kids are already on vitamin D supplements on the advice of the Dr.).  I could get those two in, but I had to move things around, and I feel like when I tried to follow the recommendation to serve iron rich foods at meals with no dairy substitutes, I had more of an issue.

Any suggestions on those two nutrients?

Also, someone mentioned concerns with soy.  Can you elaborate?[/quote]

Soy milk and processed, non fermented soy products like soy milk are full of estrogen.

I thought this was common knowledge.

A vegan, or anyone with children, dhould know this.

Fermented soy like miso and soy sauce are not a problem.  Processed soy is.
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OP here,

I thought that had been debunked a long time ago, but I reviewed the literature again.  It has been debunked.  Looking at sources online that I consider reputable, what I see is that phytoestrogens are different from the kind of estrogen in humans, and don't pose a risk.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28838083/  (Soy does not have short term negative impact on adolescents, and long term can be linked to reduction in breast cancer rates)

https://nutrition.org/eating-more-soy-foods-could-improve-thinking-and-attention-in-kids/  (Eating more soy could improve thinking and attention in kids)

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/childrens-health/in-depth/nutrition-for-kids/art-20049335  (Includes soy foods in it's recommendation for children's diets)

What I see says that foods that contain the whole soybean (edamame, tofu, soymilk) are safe healthy choices that may have some protective factors, particularly against breast cancer later.  Fermented soy (miso, tempeh) has particular benefits.

Soy sauce, soy oil, and soy protein isolate have issues, but those issues seem to be consistent with other similar foods, and come from the salt, fat and ultraprocessing.

Infant soy formula is a different issue, and not relevant to my 11 year old.

Given that I continue to feel safe with a few servings a day of edamame, tofu, tempeh, or soy curls, and using miso regularly.

We don't do protein powders, or protein bars, or shakes.

We've also chosen other plant milks than soy just to vary the protein in her diet.

We do like soy sauce, but that's not something we added to our diets due to veganism.  [/quote]

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