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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Aw, Brent is such a lovely school. Too bad you’re moving while they are in the swing space.
I’d go with Maury to avoid commute.

I would not go with Van Ness if your child is in 1st and not Pre-K.[/quote]

I’m sure Van Ness is just fine for 1st grade. [/quote]

A school where half the students are at risk and scores are low is not great for 1st. Kids learn many critical things in that grade so personally I wouldn’t want my kid to go to a school that’s ’just fine.’[/quote]

It actually is just fine. You are looking at test scores for 3-5 grades at a school where the younger grades have a very different socioeconomics makeup. You think a few numbers on a page tells you something but actually you are ignorant.[/quote]

So half the kids being at risk is a lie? That making a difference must also be a lie.

I am a coach for a DCPS school, I can see the kids iReady scores (from all schools). Just in case you are more daft than I think, iReady starts in K.

Nope, you don’t want to be there for first, if anyone is ‘ignorant’ it is you for not having all the information. Or perhaps you are an admin trying to advertise your mediocre school. [/quote]

Why would a coach have access to the iReady scores of all students at all schools? Why would a coach for a particular school spend their time looking at students' scores from other schools?

If you care about average student performance, of course a school with 46% of kids at risk isn't going to be doing as well academically as somewhere like Brent with only 8% at risk. But it is still possible, albeit harder, for a school with a higher at risk percentage to have a cohort of students performing well academically, and for the school to find ways to support those students' continued academic success.[/quote]

Yep, I sit around looking at other students scores, it’s not because I decided to look to prove my point.

I work at a title 1 school, there are higher performing students but believe me when I say it’s not just the staff -the difference is the parents and the level of outside support they can give.

And as a parent would you rather I just lie? Title 1 schools are not simply dealing with academics there is a whole heap of things teachers have to deal with -that makes it much more difficult to teach.

So fool yourself into thinking you are progressive or whatever it is you believe. If there is over 30% or so of at risk kids it is so much more difficult. Kids at schools 40% + need school and city supports, as well as higher standards that DC/DCPS refuses to give.[/quote]

Not progressive at all. Just making the choices I think are best for my family for now. I would love if the school had better CAPE scores, but for early elementary I don't think it warrants moving or committing to long/multiple school commutes. I can see my own child's iReady scores. I know the kids in my child's peer group and their families.

I'm not sure why anyone would trust the advice of someone who admits to looking up student data just to "prove a point" on the internet. Seems very unprofessional.[/quote]

And the advice of a random mother who only has the experience from a single child is more of an expert? Hm, ok.

Unprofessional? You act as if I posted scores, or even mentioned exact scores.

You may say ‘on the internet’ as if that equates to evidence not needing to be validated in some way. You tried to lie and insulate your claim that first is ‘fine.’ Or perhaps more than it being a lie, it’s just your own ignorance.

Now I won’t be replying on this matter again. Van Ness is not the worst school, there’s simply better options. [/quote]

I never suggested Van Ness for OP. I also wasn't the one who said it would be fine. For OP it's probably going to be too far outside of her comfort zone. There are enough viable options elsewhere on the Hill.

I have access to a lot of sensitive personal data at work. I use it when necessary to do my job. I cannot imagine accessing it to prove a point to "a random" on the internet.[/quote]

Anyone for whom Van Ness is too far out of their “comfort zone” for a single year of early childhood is pathetic and doesn’t deserve our advice. [/quote]

Do your kids go to Van Ness?
And why set your kids up like that if you can get something better?[/quote]

DP. I have had kids at a school comparable to Van Ness in terms of demographics and test scores, through 2nd grade. Also a Title 1.

I've also had kids at a school comparable to L-T, Maury, or Brent, for 1st-4th grade. Not naming exact schools because I think it would give me a way but they are both schools on the Hill.

For 1st grade, the experience is extremely similar. Academically, there were even things I liked about the T1. For instance, their reading instruction was phenomenal. Really strong teaching of phonics fundamentals in a way that benefitted my kid who was already a strong reader coming into 1st. The T1 also had more specials, probably in part because of extra funding.

The things I preferred about the non-T1 (the school we are still at) mostly have to do with having been there past first. Much better academics in higher grades, better overall community and fewer people leaving the school so you develop better relationships, really active PTA that sponsors lots of community events and after school activities which becomes extra important as kids get older. But if we were just at the school for first, most of this wouldn't really matter to me -- I wouldn't be trying to build long term family friendships, and if I had a nanny at home I probably wouldn't care that much about after school opportunities. Maybe the one thing our current school offered in 1st that was a true upgrade over the T1 was better/more field trips? I think, but honestly it's hard to remember. I know my kid who attended the T1 also did some cool field trips in K and 1st, including Port Discovery in Baltimore and getting to go ice skating, which are also field trips our current school does. So even that might be about the same.

T1 schools get a lot of extra money to basically help bridge the gap and IME it does for the early grades. It's when you get into upper grades and the T1 still has a lot of kids struggling with reading and math fundamentals, and some behavioral issues come into play as kids enter puberty, that the experience really separates. At least in my experience. [/quote]

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