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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]High reaches are Yale and Brown; [b]more realistic reach is Rice.[/b] DD’s school has near 100% acceptance rate to Rice in past 5-7 years in ED round with stats similar to DD’s but DD may not choose to ED there. Don’t know if those accepts include legacy (which we’re not); we know they were not athletes or Questbridge. If DD decide to ED Brown or SCEA Yale, will need target schools ready for RD round. This is for next year.

Safeties are EA early at Pitt and McGill, both also have 100% acceptance rate for DD’s stats and rank from her school.

Looking for suggestions for more attainable reaches and target colleges similar to Yale, Brown and Rice. DD most interested in interdisciplinary studies (science and language), [b]want a research university with collaborative, learning for learning’s sake culture, not pre-professional.[/b] Full pay from well respected  private HS known to elite colleges but otherwise an unhooked applicant, top 10% of class. [b]Every year top 35% of class get into Ivy+ WASP [/b]but we don’t know how many are legacy (not many are athletes).

Thanks![/quote]

Is this a local private (not boarding) school ?

Are you located outside of the DMV ?

Be careful about labeling National Universities as pre-professional since that varies by school and by major. ALL National Universities have contingents of pre-professional students as do the very top ranked LACs (think Wall Street & major consulting firms). Equally true is that ALL National Universities also have contingents who exhibit and embrace a love of learning.

If your student wants to avoid pre-professional atmospheres, then do not major in engineering, business, nursing, or economics.

OP: Do you consider students heading to medical school or to law school as pre-professional students ?

OP: Rice University is pre-professional if you consider pre-med as pre-professional. Pre-med is typically not collaborative. Rice University recently opened an undergraduate business school--which is definitely pre-professional.

OP: While I understand your objective for your daughter, it is a bit naive. Students at Top 20 National Universities are hard-working and competitive.

If truly focused on a collaborative atmosphere,consider liberal arts colleges (LACs) with a low yield rate like Vassar, Oberlin, U Rochester.

OP: Did your daughter really achieve top 10% status at an elite private school which sends 35% of each graduating class to Ivy League, Ivy League Plus, and WASP by being collaborative and learning for the joy of learning ? Or is/was she competitive and aware of the stakes regarding college admissions ?

Elite National Universities labeled as pre-professional (think U Penn & Cornell) also have large groups of students outside of business & engineering & nursing who are less pre-professional & less competitive.

OP: Examine the yield rates at any school of interest and ask why is this school enrolling fewer than 20% of the students that it accepts.

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