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It's insane to concentrate all the poverty in certain schools. These schools don't get any money to help them address these kids' needs. What a world we live in that rich people are so selfish they want to keep all the poor kids out of their school. Jfc

And we know it's not just about bus rides. There are zero options considering putting ToK at Einstein which is their closest school. It's about property values that everyone knows are propped up by the legacy of redlining.[/quote]

The schools in the poorer areas get ALL the money! What are you even talking about? Title 1 schools get the funding. That’s how it works. maybe research before making comments. Have you been inside these schools in poor areas?  Because they are in MUCH better condition with far more resources than the schools in the more affluent areas. They get priority for funding.[/quote]

There are zero Title 1 or focus high schools, they absolutely do not get "all the money". In fact, wealthy schools have more experienced teachers who are paid more than less experienced teachers. None of this is tracked or accounted for in measures of per pupil funding, they just assign an average teacher cost, but personnel is by far the largest cost for schools.

And your statement about better conditions at high poverty schools is too ridiculous for words.

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Have you been to the high poverty schools? because I have had to be in several for work and they are ALL in better condition then the higher rated schools my kids go to. So no it’s not ridiculous, it’s true.[/quote]

I see. You see a few high poverty schools in good condition and you resent it because you think the wealthy schools [b]should[/b] be nicer. Do any search for MCPS building conditions and you will find several examples of high poverty schools in such bad condition that they are a health hazard for students and staff.[/quote]

Which neighborhoods are paying the taxes? Why shouldn't those kids get schools comparatively as nice as their homes?[/quote]

Thank you for illustrating that what you think is that the schools with the highest needs should have the fewest resources[/quote]

All the schools should get the same resources from the county. The neighborhoods should be allowed to chip in more if they want their school to be nicer.[/quote]
What you are suggesting is privatizing public education. 
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It's actually a pretty common model in other parts of the country.[/quote]

Yeah and those high poverty schools are horrible. The fact that you want that for MCPS is sociopathic[/quote]

I think MCPS is a good case study of how this can backfire. As the quality of public schools drop, the rich will become less invested in the public schools as they move their kids to private. That leads them to use their political influence to fight taxes that would go to improve these schools. So, a death spiral.

You don't see this where there are town-based districts because the rich can take advantage of their own wealth while also getting state funding.[/quote]

MCPS has successfully lobbied for tax increases several times in the last several years[/quote]

County funding was stagnant from 2015-2023, sometimes even falling below inflation. Per pupil funding has risen slightly since, largely due a combination of making up for a loss of federal funding and lower enrollment.
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Why should total inflation adjusted funding increase when enrollment is going down?[/quote]

Districts have large fixed costs that still need to be covered even when there is reduced enrollment. And loaded labor costs are going up faster than inflation. This isn't an industry where technology can provide productivity improvements to offset those increased costs.

So yes, even setting aside new and increased needs, you should expect per-pupil funding to increase faster than inflation, especially when enrollment drops.[/quote]

That's not a realistic expectation. Where do you think this money is coming from?[/quote]

You have a short memory.

We've seen a dramatic shift in k-12 education spending over the last century. In the 1950s-1970s, k-12 spending  grew faster than the GDP. In the decades since, it has fallen. There's plenty of money that could go to education.

What are we spending it on instead? Health care- especially for the elderly- is going up much faster than the GDP.

Basically, the boomers benefited from school funding in the past, and as they got older they diverted it to fund health care for themselves as they aged.[/quote]

So your solution is for Montgomery County to cut Medicare and retiree health benefits for employees?[/quote]

Do you think before you type?   Ther cannot cut Medicare but they can reduce benefits to have the health care math the rest of the county as this is not sustainable.  [/quote]

So cut benefits for currently retired teachers and first responders? You'll have to talk to MCEA, IAFF as and FOP for that.[/quote]

You don't need to cut those for current retirees because those are a problem for long-term stability. To address the short-term, we just need to raise education funding like we did in the 50s.[/quote]

You mean raise taxes. Not just on rich people but on everyone.[/quote]

And?

If you don't like that, get Maryland to allow counties to create tax brackets with different rates. It's ridiculous to have a flat rate anyway.[/quote]

Raising taxes during a likely recession with thousands out of work is incredibly stupid and tone deaf[/quote]

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