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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]35 students in a class is still quite small, and if you come from a public high school, that’s close to normal, granted most probably came from private. These kids need to stop whining because there is little difference between 20 and 35 in a college class, even 9 and 20 or 35. If they can’t find a way to speak up or use AI to cheat on readings, that tells you more about  student. Welcome to the real world.[/quote]

Extensive research has shown that the ideal class size to facilitate learning, discussion, and engagement is 16 students. So yes, 20 is a lot better and just a few more than the ideal size, rather than 35 (which is double the ideal size).[/quote]
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Cite your source.[/quote][/quote]

Educator here, it's not rocket science. [url]https://ecommons.cornell.edu/items/fdf9ce53-d846-4b23-a551-78730bc4b0b9[/url][/quote]

The literature review starting on Page 5 suggests all kinds of mixed and confounding effects.

The data in the paper is based solely on SUNY Binghamton students from 1992-2004.

What if better students like smaller classes?

What if better students also do well in large lecture classes but the effect is drowned out by anonymity-seeking slackers?

This paper is a large data set contribution to a body of literature.  It is not even LAC data.  And I think Bing is more selective now than it was back then (although I don't think that matters much).

I would like better evidence.

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