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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To me it means a school where there is no work life balance. Kids are overworked and living with a lot of anxiety; they are not learning for the sake of knowledge, discovery and innovation, but to get good grades and stay afloat.

I always wonder if these kids graduate to become leaders and bosses, or if they simply transition to become work horses in the work place. [/quote]

Basically the college version of TJ, Stuyvesant, etc.[/quote]
TJ and Stuy produced way more successful “leaders and bosses” than any TT private schools.  [/quote]

Not sure if this is true proportionately. Sure TJ Stuy could have more in absolutely number bc the class size is literally 10x that of a private HS.

Also am noticing the kids who went from Stuy to LACs and HYP are more likely to become leaders. The Stuy kids who went to CMU or even MIT work for those leaders [/quote]

Honey, that’s not causation.  The same HYP guy, if gone to CMU, will turn out the same.  HYP screen, or they used to, for leaders. They can’t be fostered.  [/quote]

I don't love PP's condescending "honey" attitude, but I do agree with some sentiments of what she said.

My oldest DC was a lifer at several grind schools (magnets/G&T since K) and youngest is at a feeder private (both not in DVM but think equivalent of TJ and Sidwell). The public grinder kid and his friends were all doing 14 APs, dual enrollment, 2-3 volunteer jobs at hospitals and meals on wheels, then they all move on to grind colleges like Cornell and CMU. Meanwhile, the private school kids don't even take AP exams; the same caliber of kids (similar IQ, work ethics) would end up at HYP Duke, Williams, Brown etc and they are much less burned out than the public grinder kids. One thing I notice is that the private non-grinder kids are not necessarily smarter or even better leaders at that age (17, 18) but they are often much better public speakers, they can carry on an interesting analytical conversation with adults and are more polished. [/quote]

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