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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I thought he did, but not anymore.

I've watched a few documentaries on people like Ted Bundy and  Jimmy Saville, a prolific horrible child molester in the UK.  He was rich and famous and had powerful friends (the royals, Margaret Thatcher, etc..).

What I learned was that people like Epstein and Saville are sociopaths, and sociopaths generally don't commit suicide for their wrong doings even if they are caught. They rely on their powerful friends to get them out of trouble, be it pressuring the victims, law enforcement, etc..

I don't think he committed suicide.  There were enough very powerful men who were involved who had the means to have Epstein murdered.[/quote]

This is simply not supported by psychological studies and scholarship.

Both sociopaths and malignant narcissists are at increased risk for suicide.

In particular malignant narcissists - a designation which fits with everything we know about Jeffrey Epstein - are most at risk when circumstances in their lives undermine the fragile reality they inhabit.

“While it may seem counterintuitive for someone with a grandiose self-image to take their own life, the underlying dynamics of narcissistic suicide often involve an inability to cope with intense shame, humiliation, and "narcissistic collapse" when their false self is exposed or their grandiosity is undermined by reality.”

Jeffrey Epstein’s depth of depravity and scope of criminal behavior was about to be fully revealed to the entire world, and all his famous friends, by the federal prosecution he was facing. It was a perfect storm to drive a sociopathic malignant narcissist to take their own life.

Jeffrey Epstein was also a very clever person. It would not have taken him long to figure out the system at the jail where he was being held and to find weaknesses that would allow him the opportunity to suicide.

I really think it is much more likely than not that he took his own life. [/quote]
There's a difference between the average sociopaths and the likes of Epstein and Saville.  The average person doesn't have the money and connections to get them out of trouble.

Neither Epstein nor Saville were ashamed of being exposed.  Rather, they saw nothing wrong with what they did.[/quote]

You are full of 💩, sorry.[/quote]
And you just want to protect the pedos.

Epstein had the goods on very powerful people. Why on earth would he commit suicide when he could leverage what he knew to get probation at best.

You are naive and probably the type of person who is easily suckered by people like Trump.[/quote]

Just getting back to this thread and you are disgusting, poster.

I happen to have an extensive background in psychology and also specifically in the study of both criminal psychology and suicidology, so I’m not talking out my arse while you are blathering on here and in other threads about some documentary you watched which you feel makes you and expert. And because I disagreed with you, you’re accusing me of defending pedophiles. You’re dog sh*t, or more likely even a lower form of life - the massive fragile ego micro dink micro brained male.

The newly released emails are full of Epstein and Bannon exchanges in which Epstein is trying to strategize his public rehabilitation and panicking when he learns Michael Wolfe’s book was going to include references to his criminal behavior with minor females. He was PANICKING.

Epstein’s close friends like Trump might well have known of his depravity, but his beloved brother did not. Presumably neither did the rest of his family. All the makings if a narcissistic collapse were in play and there is EVERY reason to believe he fell into fragile ego despair (imagine yourself on steroids) and hung himself rather than see his carefully crafted exterior image blown apart. NOT because he thought raping teenaged girls was wrong, but because he knew other people would think so.

Now go play with yourself or whatever and don’t bother the professional with your documentary deductions again. [/quote]

Agree, both suicide and murder are possible causes of Epstein's death.[/quote]

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