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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So many parents dont investigate. They just assume someone is taking care of that stuff, even more so with rich people. [/quote]

I’ll admit I’m guilty of this.  DD spent a good chunk of her summers from ages 10-18 at a camp that I never saw much beyond the pickup/dropoff point, which looked lovely and very safe.  Last year, she finally took us on a tour of the entire camp and I was shocked at how isolated and remote some of the areas were.  I do think that they had excellent emergency plans in place, but I could also see how things could get dangerous really fast.  [/quote]

I mean, it was a camp for rich/upper middle class girls that has been around for generations. A lot of us go off of word of mouth recs from other parents rather than analyzing camp maps and flood risk data.

But yes the camp deserves to be sued. The wife of the camp owner who died had to be helicoptered out one year because of flood waters.  They certainly knew how dangerous the situation was.[/quote]

The husband knew enough to petition the state to have the doomed cabins removed from the flood plain so that he would be allowed to let girls sleep there. [/quote]

They petitioned FEMA, likely hoping to reduce their flood insurance costs. And FEMA agreed with them. That seems to refute the claim they knew this was a plausible risk.

I grew up in the upper midwest with floods, but those were far slower floods than flash floods like this incident. It is mind-boggling to me how quickly this flood progressed-- the river rose 26 feet in 45 minutes!

Yes, the area was known for flash flooding, but every aspect of this was a worst-case scenario. This was the highest recorded flood level. It rose extraordinarily fast, even for this area. It happened over a holiday weekend, with less support/warning from local emergency services. And it occurred overnight, likely delaying their understanding of how bad the flood was getting and impairing evacuations.

I do think it was negligent to have cabins with kids that close to the river. And I think the camp should have been more careful with monitoring the situation and calling for evacuations. [b]But it also seems like this was both a truly exceptional event and a situation where emergency services should have more infrastructure in place in detect and warn of major floods as they occur.[/b][/quote]

The bolded is no reason to not have reasonable plans. It was in a flood plain that had flooded badly in the past. The owners knew and should have been concerned just based on the weather forecast. [/quote]

No one in that region was preparing for a record-level flood based on the weather forecast. It wasn't just them. I'm sure they all knew there would be flooding, but this wasn't their typical flooding. Not even close.[/quote]

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