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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]They basically implemented what’s called “stop and Frisk” which has been studied and debunked as a good model for reducing crime.

Stop and frisk, mandatory minimum, three strikes you’re out, broken window theory… they’ve all shown to have a positive short term effect on crime, but extreme long-term negative affects.

You take a hard-working law, abiding immigrant, and throw them in jail for 76 days and then deport them to a country they don’t know… but you leave behind their 13 and 11 year-old children who now have no money, nobody encouraging them to stay in school, and trauma without a loving family around them… guess what you get when they turn 16 and 17… criminals.[/quote]

There is a difference---nuanced but a definite difference---between "broken windows" theory and the failures of "stop & frisk".  There is a great October podcast interviewing a longtime NYPD higher up about what policies have and have not worked since the 1990s.  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/stop-and-frisk-didnt-work-this-did/id1772157676?i=1000731432940

Under "broken windows" the cops went after perps for low level crime ---such as fare jumping---because (surprise surprise) ---the criminals mugging people on the subway were also not paying to ride it.  Unfortunately, as the podcast explains, that approach morphed into "stop & frisk" when precincts became more focused on juicing their statistics.  In the same podcast, the guy interviewed had some interesting observations on how the local police forces could use the NG effectively to augment their efforts (e.g., securing crime scenes) even though overall he was opposed to the idea of just sending the NG into cities where they are unwanted.

IMO, I would be a lot happier with the NG presence if they did something productive like spend an evening coordinating with the police to stop all drivers of unregistered/licensed ATVs on city streets.  The DC cops can stop them and the NG could be dumping the ATVs into a metal crusher.  It would take one night of doing that to stop the ATV lawlessness, as none of these guys would want to lose their toys.  I'd rather see that happen than ICE going after the poor immigrant Door Dash guys who are at least trying to make a living.  The ATVers are just out to be obnoxious.  [/quote]

What would actually be effective is if the NG were mentoring young people, coaching them, having them shadow them at their jobs, giving them part time jobs etc. all the things being implemented in Baltimore right now. [/quote]

Agree, this is where DC is failing young at-risk people.  They keep throwing money at failed programs.  They should be having summer programs and after school programs to help boost literacy and other school skills, along with coaching them on life skills and steering them toward productive, useful pursuits rather than dealing drugs, robbing and other behaviors.  Those programs should be [i]mandatory[/i] for kids who are struggling, or who are getting in trouble.  Are their parents/guardians going to complain?  So what if they do, they are obviously already failing those kids, and if they don't like it, they need to step the F up and start doing some parenting.[/quote]

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