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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Duke Northwestern Cornell Michigan Notre Dame Vanderbilt USC What’s missing?[/quote] Very few Duke kids go out 2-3x a week, not counting the first week or so of fall semester. 1 is typical, maybe 2. Vast majority are not greek. Duke is more social than some but not all of the ivies, but just like Ivy/chicago/stanford it is filled with super high achievers who do research, run clubs, have internships during the semester on campus or close. T[b]he do-it-all mentality and obsession with grades is much different than Duke in the early 90s(93 grad w a 24 grad kid). [/b] The nephew at northwestern and it is per him more academic/intellectually focused on studies than Duke. To us as parents/grown siblings the students sound similar at NW and Duke [/quote] Also a Duke 90s grad. My friends and I all did interesting things outside the classroom, including Greek life, but we each had an interest or activity or two, not the "do it all" / resume-building approach of high-achievers of this generation. Yes, the academics were difficult at times, but there was a real sense of balance between working hard, going out, and watching all the games during basketball season. :) What schools are currently like Duke in the 90s? Vandy? Wake? What schools would you say have the mindset and culture that Duke did when we were [/quote] I think some of that Duke mindset and culture exists, but its getting lost a bit. Will see if they course correct this cycle (don't they have new leadership)? I'd say Vanderbilt and Wake for sure. Maybe UVA? No school has it all, though. Each of the schools listed earlier has some element of that Duke of 1990s vibe. The question becomes how much and how hard is it for a kid to find their people. It changes each year based on the institutional priorities of a school. When schools over-rotate on one IP, they have to choose fewer of a certain type of kid. Social, gregarious, interesting kids who are not interested in grinding or overachieving weren't really sought after in the last few cycles. Our CCO says that is changing with everyone seeing Vanderbilt's success (that is EXACTLY the kind of kid Vanderbilt goes after and full pay to boot) - and especially given protest and funding dynamics, they seem to want a different demographic now. With funding pressures, expect more schools like the ones below to try and emulate some of that Vandy success: Penn, Northwestern, Dartmouth (though the current freshman class is a little strange), Cornell (easier to do given so large, but different AO making decisions, so possibly harder for cohesion), Notre Dame (they also have looked for this kind of kid) UVA (think DeanJ has talked about personal qualities like sociability and collaboration) Georgetown USC [/quote] Where did you get your info about Dartmouth's current freshman class? Very curious as I have a child in this class. [/quote]
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