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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Finished listening to this podcast;

First, coding does not equal Compute Science. Rambling on the history of code.org as it's a bad thing? nearly every field uses some sort of code. Even "Prompt Engineering" is beginning to look like code. I don't think teaching kids to code was bad.

The industry over hired and over paid in the last 5 - 10 years; they hired a lot of non CS majors to fill in roles. They even hired music majors that passed coding bootcamps.

CS majors will find jobs just not the dream $500K ones.

The AI state is right now like the early 1990s for CS - we haven't felt the boom yet. There are a lot of future billionaires working on sustainable startups.[/quote]
+ 100%.    Gone are the $200K starting salaries, but that doesn't mean CS is dead.  Most companies require tech people, and CS is not just about simple coding.  Yes, AI can do some coding, but you still need a human to review and QA.

AI can also replace writers, btw, and just like AI produced code, you still need someone to review the AI writing. [/quote]

This actually isn’t true at all…my kid’s two friends that just graduated are making between $300k-$500k…my kid already has a 2027 offer at $250k.

These kids all have extensive ML and other AI capabilities which at least right now are very much in high demand.

The ideal CS person is like a mind-meld with the AI.  They are massively more efficient but they also correct AI mistakes in real time.[/quote]
Doing what? Unless your kids are doing quant finance or just got their PhDs in CS, they're not worth that much for any organization.[/quote]

Well…Stripe and Meta and Anthropic think they are.

They have significant ML expertise and are proficient developers and know how to leverage AI exceptionally well.  These kids can add value nearly Day 1 and need minimal training.

They are all coming from top schools…which I believe was a takeaway from this podcast.[/quote]
Stripe nor meta pay thatch for entry level employees. Your kid needs a ton of training going into anthropic, you sound incredibly ignorant.[/quote]

Sounds like you are crazy jealous.  Both Meta and Stripe absolutely are hiring kids into various groups where they are paying these kinds of dollars.  Anthropic is also hiring these kids who are coming from top schools…again with tons of skills and Math and CS degrees.  They are paying PhDs over $1MM.

These kids are coming from top 10 schools.

I am literally just the messenger.  You can decide to not believe it and continue to believe what you want.[/quote]
but they aren't. here's a search for a senior dev in San Francisco (boosting the salary) at anthropic, who you claim should be paying over $1million: [url]https://job-boards.greenhouse.io/anthropic/jobs/4738780008[/url]...the pay band is $300,000 - $320,000 USD[/quote]

This isn’t a PhD position.[/quote]
50% of their employees have PhDs. You can get into anthropic positions with any degree. There's no such thing as a "PhD" role at anthropic. You don't know what you're taking about.[/quote]

No...you don't know what you are talking about...these companies are absolutely paying PhDs over $1MM...academia can't keep any of these kids because the private sector is paying so much.

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