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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just average them out:

This is the avg using the same weight:

1.	Oxford — avg 2.33

2.	Cambridge / LSE & St Andrews — tied at avg 2.67

3. 	Durham — avg 4.33
	4. 	Imperial — avg 6.00
	5. 	Warwick — avg 8.00
	6.	Bath — avg 7.67
	7.	Loughborough — avg 10.00
	8.	UCL — avg 10.67
	9.	Lancaster — avg 11.33
	10.	Exeter — avg 14.00[/quote]

Your averages are not correct…. This is the correct avg of all 3:

1.	Oxford — 2.33
	2.	Cambridge / LSE / St Andrews — 2.67
	3.	Durham — 4.33
	4.	Imperial — 6.00
	5.	Bath — 7.67
	6.	Warwick — 8.00
	7.	Loughborough — 10.00
	8.	UCL — 10.67
	9.	Lancaster — 13.00
	10.	Bristol — 13.33
	11.	Exeter — 14.00

I know most on this board only talk about Oxbridge, St Andrews/Durham and LSE and Imperial/UC. But are there many Americans at these other highly ranked UK schools? Bath, Warwick, Lancaster, Bristol, Exeter, etc?

They look like amazing values, but I dont know much about them. DS is a sophomore and is talking about applying to UK universities. Would love to hear someone here with experience talk about these other universities. We plan to visit a couple of them with my son during thanksgiving week and then during spring break. we hope to hit at least 10 schools outside of London or Oxbridge. He is leaning Business/Management or Econ. But he also likes History and Politics.[/quote]

We are English, but live in the US. The way we looked at it (not my son, he was ready to go back to the UK) was that the schools you mentioned outside of Oxbridge, LSE, St Andrews and Imperial/UCL, are still amazing universities that compare very very well to any US t30-t75. Bath, Warwick, Lancaster, Bristol, Exeter are all great places. We suggest visiting every single one of them and before you go, tell your son to email not only the admissions offices to tell them you are coming, but also email a professor or two (maybe even the dept head of the programme your kid is interested in) to ask questions and maybe meet in person while you are visiting. This will go a long way to help him decide which ones he wants to apply to.[/quote]

US professor here:  things may be very different in the UK, but. . . .  I do not interact with prospective undergrads.  It's not part of the job description and there wouldn't be enough time in the day to take on the admissions function as well as my own job. When I get admissions queries, I email back with the contact info/ website for undergrad admissions.

As I said, maybe things are much different in the UK, but I have friends who teach there, and I doubt it.  I wouldn't count it as a strike against any school if a faculty member bounced you over to admissions.[/quote]

Nobody is asking you to take on admissions functions. None of these emails are admissions related questions. Our 3 kids went to school in the UK. Every single time they responded.  It was never a cold email. It was always structured along the lines as Ï read your commentary on this or that subject, or I read your paper and this is a an area I’m interested in. And believe me or not, Each of my 3 kids had at least 1, if not more professors emailing back. Even two of the programme heads replied and were really appreciative of the questions/commentary.

If you are a department head and you completely ignore a well structured prospective student’s email asking about details in the specific program and you ignore him, then you are doing a disservice to your employer. I guess this is one of the main differences here. Most admissions decisions in the UK are done at the programe level and NOT by 26 yr olds in the admissions office like most US universities. [/quote]

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