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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So Hamas leaders were there?  Interdasting.[/quote]

There are 2 Hamas- one in Gaza and one in Qatar. The Hamas  in Gaza are the fighter wing/the poors. The Hamas in Qatar are the  bourgeoise/diplomatic face  of Hamas.

They tend to be rich, educated,  secular, tend to lean a little pro Israel, have kids in western universities in Qatar or overseas, speak English fluently and often another language like Russian or Turkish.  They are the diplomatic “face”.

They also are not popular in Gaza even among the poor Hamas fighters  or Among the average everyday people.

According to Qatari Hamas, they had no prior knowledge of 10/7. Israel believed it because they have their phones taped and found no conspiring. It appears Sinwar completed 10/7 alone and seemingly as a coup against Hamas in Qatar.

Sinwar had some authenticity among the fighters because  he actually lived in Gaza unlike the ritz Carlton dwelling Hamas elite[/quote]

I really do not what Israel propaganda says any more. They have been fighting for almost two year with no results. It is time to look at Israel and only Israel. [/quote]

Netanyahu is not fighting for results. He’s fighting for extension and expansion of the war to other regions. He is fighting to hold on to power and avoid jail for himself. He is a saboteur in cahoots with Hamas.

Why else would he wait eight weeks before entering Gaza? Does anyone wait eight weeks to complete a search when someone  goes missing?

Netanyahu will not go down in history well. Many Israeli officials have already publically turned on him and have realized he is the Hamas supporter he talks about. Among other things, he compromised his own security by aligning with right wing radicals like Ben Gvir who publically said Netanyahu should be eliminated by any means if he makes a deal or stops the war. Even if he wanted to stop it (which he doesn’t), he can’t. The same radicals he jostled against Prime Minister Rabin can easily turn on him and kill him and he knows that. He’s weaved a web he can’t untangle and the sad part is Israeli people knew he would lead to dangerous outcomes with this new right wing coalition. That’s what the protests were largely about. The secular vs extremist divide was so bad during the protests some people thought Israel would fall to civil war. 10/7 completely changed that and United the country shifting even the biggest hippie to a right wing Likudnik. This benefits Bibi but at what cost? He takes big gambles with politics and often he wins but nobody wins forever [/quote]

Hamas wouldn't exist if Netanyahu didn't allow it to happen. He knew he needed to create a boogeyman in order to have justification for war crimes and genocide in Gaza as well as divide the Palestinian people. It's no secret that he's funded Hamas billions of dollars directly and then later through Qatar as a intermediary.

See the other thread on the topic, but it's also quite evident that Netanyahu/Israeli intelligence facilitated 10/7 to justify everything they've done subsequently. Killing the negotiations is absolutely essential to continue the genocide and prevent any ceasefire. Time is running out as public opinion is waning, so Israel wants to finsh the job  of genocide/ethnic cleansing ASAP. [/quote]

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