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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Is it just me or does the #1 ranked school have a lot of students who look weak academically?[/quote] Princeton alum here and I'm appalled by how many kids reported barely studying n high school. Lots of kids did less than 10 hours of homework per week. [/quote] A lot of school districts are reducing homework. There’s no proof that homework actually improves learning. It’s just good discipline.[/quote] What about reading long novels and writing papers of length, substance and depth? That takes substantial time and builds skills that a lot of kids at even elite universities don't have anymore. I don't like piling on homework just to show how tough a school is, but I don't buy the "less homework is better" approach for high school, either. [b] Do you think the kids who barely do any homework can really hack it in a serious literature course at Princeton? [/b][/quote] I would say the kids who barely [i]do [/i]their homework don't typically make it to Princeton, but those who don't receive much homework aren't evidenced to be worse students. People interested in English and History will naturally have interest in reading long, advanced texts, and you don't have to artificially demand excessive loads on your students to get them to understand where they land. Across the boards, students are reading less and less, but it has more to do with the access students get to spark notes, lit charts, along with AI that is causing this change; students also have shot their abilities to process things for a long time, and providing them advanced long texts earlier doesn't really change that-it starts at the home, and normalizing less tech usage and more discipline. I don't think schools have much agency in improving their students' attention and focus.[/quote]
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