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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The "need" for even having a discussion about social promotion vs. retention and pedantic pontification on either is really only talking about the symptoms, as opposed to the underlying causes, which is even more insidious, filled with fuzzy "feel-good" theories in pedagogy - which have led to a lack of firm grounding in phonics and other crucial reading skills, lack of firm grounding in math facts, things like too much group work and not enough independent mastery.  Many sound teaching principles that worked for centuries have been discarded for faddish educational nonsense in the classroom.

Needless to say, I don't have much respect for academics promoting these things. [b] "Glorified daycare?"  Yes, that pretty much nails it.  [/b]Complete failure where it comes to actual education.[/quote]

I'm not sure I follow.  Having had the opportunity to read at least a smidgen of research, what exactly is your suggestion?  You don't believe in promoting them.  Should we put them straight into "Juvenile Hall" or are they fit to be in school with somebody?  If so, whom?  You don't want them with your child, obviously.  So, whose children do these undesirables belong with?  How soon can we give up on them?

You've got a lot to complain about, including the research.  Identifying the problem is the easy part.  You're not very helpful with solutions - at least not in an honest way.  [/quote]

Whoa.  Who said anything about juvenile hall?   Slow it down there.  And, where are YOUR solutions?   Basically, your "solution" of social promotion is to ignore the problem altogether.   Basically, the anti-retention attitude is that the child will NEVER learn the material, EVER.  What exactly is so wrong with giving the child a second chance at it?[/quote]

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