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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]T10 schools are their own thing. [b]You need to kill AP chem even if you want to be in women’s studies. Partly bcs they don’t believe you won’t switch after you get in. [/b]

And then you need strength in your area.

After t20, sure, I think Op is right.

But also, pretty sure everyone here knows the EIC the yearbook who is also on cheer and also class Pres turns no heads. That was two generations ago. [/quote]

Actually, not true for our private and my DD, who applied to women's studies. We don't have AP classes, but kid was in regular/honors chem and not advanced. Got into 1 T10 (WL at another - and got called off WL in early May), and 3 other T20/25.....
Maybe because it's a private school? Who knows.

Just don't think you can make these blanket statements for all high schools in America.[/quote]

Private HS have their own rules, though. And colleges know that. Some are known to be massive humanities feeders.
Let me guess? Saint Ann's in NY?
https://saintannsny.org/divisions-and-offices/college-office/class-college-admission/[/quote]

Is this the whole class?[/quote]

That's the school that doesn't give grades. Novel concept and look at the placement outcomes.
https://saintannsny.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/SchoolProfile24-25.pdf[/quote]

Not to get off topic, this is a primary example of why generic advice on this site is meaningless if not customized to your school. 
For example, at St. Ann's you don't need to even be in the top 25% of your class to get into an Ivy (I think that's true at many of the nation's most selective private high schools).

I plugged those 2 links into AI, to have it examine the rigor of a HS without ANY grades and college placements (super fun exercise that you should do with your own schools!):

- 29.1% of the class (25 out of 86 students) got into Ivy League schools: Why is it significant? (If only the top 25% could get into Ivies, that would be a maximum of 21-22 students. But Saint Ann's sent 25 students to Ivies, meaning some students outside the top quartile clearly gained admission.)

Why This Happens at Elite Schools Like Saint Ann's:
- Holistic Admissions: Top colleges don't just look at class rank - they consider the full profile including essays, recommendations, extracurriculars, and "fit"
- School Reputation: Saint Ann's is known to admissions officers as academically rigorous. A student in the bottom half at Saint Ann's might be better prepared than a valedictorian from a less competitive school.
- No Grades/Rankings: Saint Ann's uses narrative evaluations instead of grades, so there's no traditional class rank anyway. This likely helps students avoid being pigeonholed by their academic standing.
- Diverse Talents: With Saint Ann's strong arts focus, students might get into Ivies based on exceptional creative abilities even if they're not the strongest academically.
- Context Matters: A "middle of the pack" student at Saint Ann's still received an incredibly rigorous education and strong college counseling.

The Reality: At truly elite high schools like Saint Ann's, Dalton, or Exeter, the entire class is so strong that even students in the bottom half can be competitive for top colleges. The school's reputation and preparation matter more than internal ranking.[/quote]

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