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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Are the seedings out today?[/quote]

Some parents are just obsessed and monitor all the kids, which is creepy and take the fun out of swimming. [/quote]

I think a lot of parents actually want to move down divisions where it will be more fun.[/quote]

It's not much more fun in the lower divisions.  There are two types of parents, those who have club swimmers that are pushed to win (so that the team wins A meets), and those whose kids swim only during the summer and don't care about winning meets.  This creates a bit of a tension and can tear a lower division team apart.[/quote]

Not true.  Over the years, we've been in B through F and and I would say the best in terms of being in the fun but still competitive sweetspot is D and E.  Once you are in the top 3 divisions, it's mostly going to be year round swimmers swimming A meets.

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I would argue that C is fun too. Our team’s division (which has varied over the years) really hasn’t impacted what % of non-club kids make A meets. We have some club kids who are very strong but barely make A meets because their cohort just happens to be extremely strong, and other age groups where many non-club kids are making A meets.[/quote]

We are in C this year and I disagree. We were in lower divisions in the past and it was a lot more fun. This year is toxic with the competition and there are very few non-club kids making A meets other than in age groups where we don't have enough swimmers to fill lanes. [/quote]

Lower divisions can be fun at B meets.  At A meets, there is still pressure to win, and the few club kids who swim are often expected to rack up most of the points.  That isn't very much fun for them.[/quote]

Our club swimmers don't go to practices and dominate the meets.  It must be fun for them or why are they doing it?  If its not fun, drop out or do less and let others get to swim A meets.  There should be a requirement to acutally participate in the team and do practices vs. just show up for A meets.[/quote]

There are odd pressures on _younger_ club swimmers during the summer (the older ones have clear expectations on them and have learned how to deal with them).  Younger club swimmers sometimes feel quite torn between the fun and friends of summer team and the explicit requirements coming from the club.  My kid does morning practice with the summer team and evenings with the club.  The meets are closely packed, with PVS 12u/14u meets sometimes narrowly avoiding summer ones (at the older ages they just let the conflicts fall where they may), so kids try to do both and really get tired.  The club doesn't have much regard for the summer operation, while the summer team tries to welcome the kids whenever they're not at club, but they miss out on stuff all the same.

It's not like this is some kind of massive burden (it's the shape of the sport, and the sport is a choice, always) - it's just that seeing the club swimmers only jumping in for the A meets doesn't capture the whole picture.  These middle years (mid-upper AG swimming) are kind of tricky to navigate, or at least to schedule.

Even given all of that, however, I do think that part of what makes summer team a real experience is the group nature of it.  I do think club swimmers should be part of summer practices and activities as much as they can be, because contributing to your team means more than just points. [/quote]

There is only the pressure their parents and they put on themselves.  The teacms don't care that much.  I think its strange you'd only go to A meets. They aren't really contributing anything other than times and they really aren't part of the team.[/quote]

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