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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Are we first in anything?[/quote]

First to develop a nuclear bomb. There’s that. Imagine how different world would’ve been if it was Soviet Union. [/quote]

You rank hypocrite!

Look how many immigrants were involved in the development of the nuclear bomb

Now I know what your tiny maga mind is saying. "Well those aren't the illegals Trump is rounding up."

No one important in science wants to come to the U.S. with this crazy man in power. We are slowly losing the economic draw that would bring people here.

Watch a see. And try to learn from the past if you insist on living there.[/quote]

Other posters just mention that science will be done elsewhere. So why does science have to be done here at taxpayers expense?

How is science different from manufacturing?[/quote]

What is the ROI of 20 years of govt grants for one R&D project? 
It’s low enough the private sector isn’t interested. [/quote]

Private sector absolutely loves projects funded by government R&D grants and programs.

The Internet, for one.  Developed by DARPA for the military and research, later on got a big government cash infusion to create the commercial backbone (yes, that was Al Gore).  Multi-trillion dollar economy

GPS.  Developed by DoD, now used in phones, logistics, everything

Touchscreens.  Developed with funding by NSF and CIA

Microchips.  Developed with funding from DARPA and NASA

LEDs - red LEDs first developed by Air Force funded project in the 1960s, now ubiquitous for lighting and all across the color spectrum

Accelerometers - used in cars, pacemakers, phones - funded by NIST and DoD

MRI - developed through NSF grant

LASIK eye surgery - NSF grant

CRISPR gene editing - NSF and NIH

Flu, Hepatitis B and other vaccines developed using NIH funding

Duolingo - NSF grant funding to develop and launch

Doppler radar for storm tracking - NSF funded research

Barcodes, closed captioning, many other technologies developed through NSF research

Satellites, deep sea exploration, 3D seismic imaging, and on and on and on

It frankly sickens me when Republicans take all of this for granted and for some reason thinks government does nothing and that everything we have is solely thanks to capitalists and billionaire investors, who the government mooches off of by making them pay taxes, when in fact most of it is the exact opposite, they made their billions thanks to government infrastructure and investments.

I think it was Oscar Wilde, who in the 1890s said "What is a cynic?  A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing."

That so very much applies to modern American conservatives.  They are fixated on the price tag of everything while being completely unaware of the true [i]value[/i] of these things.  They fail to comprehend the vast ROI of government investments.  They complain about the cost of a clean river but ignore the worth of a child who drinks water from it.  They will quote the market value of a tree but ignore the value of having clean air to breathe.  [/quote]

It’s because MAGA, to quote Ruth from Ozark, don’t know sh*t about f**k![/quote]

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