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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]With Michigan State, I don't recall alumni and students coming to the defense of the perpetrators. It was universal revulsion.

At Penn State, their football-obsessed alumni spent years defending the perpetrators, especially Joe Paterno the coach who facilitated and protected Sandusky. And it wasn't just a few crazed fans, but was a majority opinion for years among alumni in surveys. That's the troubling legacy at Penn State.

[b]And of course, it is a lackluster school academically. [/b][/quote]

How is it lacklustre? I’ve heard that for some programs/majors it compares to the ivies and/or is better.[/quote]

Ummmm, no!

Compares to ivies and is better?  What kool aid are you drinking!  Not even close ……[/quote]
Penn State offers a more comprehensive engineering program than all of the Ivies. While Ivies may have more selective admissions and fewer "weed-out" courses, Penn State provides majors across virtually all engineering disciplines with well-regarded programs in each area, which is a breadth that no Ivy can match.

The scale difference is also significant: Penn State likely graduates more engineers annually than all Ivy League schools combined. This raises an important question about career outcomes. Apart from Cornell, a substantial percentage of Ivy League engineering graduates seem to pursue careers outside of engineering. For students committed to engineering careers, this means the vaunted Ivy alumni network may offer limited value within the engineering field itself.

When evaluating engineering programs specifically, schools like Brown and Dartmouth, while excellent school overall, simply cannot compete with Penn State's depth, breadth, and industry connections in engineering disciplines. A couple of Ivies to have some strengths, but does that make them a better overall choice for someone pursuing an engineering career?

If you want to pursue a specific career, attend a college where graduates actually work in that field. If you want to work on the street, schools like the Ivies or Bucknell provide strong alumni networks and recruitment pipelines into those industries. If you want to work as an engineer, schools like Penn State or Iowa State offer top notch engineering programs with graduates who go directly into engineering careers.

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