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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NP. I'm responding to the following assertion you made: "First, there is no video I’ve seen circulated on social media or by the news media that supports the assertion that agents aren’t identifying themselves to the target of their enforcement action."

This is false. One of the first and better know videos capturing an ICE arrest clearly shows that ICE officers (or whoever they are) did most certainly not identify themselves. It's the case of the Turkish grad student, Rumeysa Ozturk, who was snatched off the streets of a Boston suburb.

Here is the video (embedded in the story): https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/26/us/video/tufts-student-detained-rumeysa-ozturk-ice-digvid

And here is text from a news story (one of several) pointing out that the agents did not identify themselves: "In the widely seen video, [b]masked ICE agents, refusing to identify themselves,[/b] arrested Ozturk on the street in Somerville, Mass."
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/5258058-how-ice-is-gaming-the-system-to-keep-rumeysa-ozturk-in-prison/

Have you watched the video? The masked individuals did not identify themselves. At one point the poor woman is so confused as to who the SIX masked people in plainclothes are who are swarming around her that she mentions summoning the police, and one person says, "We ARE the police." [The Somerville police subsequently released a statement saying that their officers were not involved. Not sure what "police" the masked person was referring to since they weren't police.[/quote]

Watch the CNN video more closely. At the 12 second mark the 2nd ICE ERO police officer that circles behind the target pulls his badge on a chain out from his sweatshirt. That’s what undercover officers do. At the 19 second mark the female ERO officer with her badge clearly hanging around her neck enters the frame from the right.

That’s identifying themselves. You will find ERO identifying themselves in every video. You are letting your emotions suppress your ability to process the details within the videos.
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NP - If for example you havent pulled out and shown the individual the badge that was concealed under your sweatshirt, and not just a cursory flash, until AFTER you are physically restraining them then in my opinion you have absolutely no legitimate claim as an LEO to make about "resisting arrest" or that you were assaulted by the individual because up until that moment they fully have a legitimate presumption that they are being abducted by some unknown person and as such have every right to try and flee or fight.  This kind of thing really needs to be made clear to law enforcement.[/quote]

Law enforcement knows this.  It is always a defense to a charge of resisting arrest that the defendant had a good faith and reasonable belief that the person they resisted was not a LEO.[/quote]

Normal law enforcement may know this but does ICE?[/quote]

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