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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Condolences to the family for their tremendous loss.  Shame on Trump. Shame on GOP.  Shame on NRA. [/quote]

The NRA supports gang shooting? I love this idea that criminals use legal guns.  They are using ghost guns which are not registered.  They are impossible to track.  The NRA does nor support ghost guns.  Also, the US Attorney in DC let's tons of criminals put on release who have committed crimes with guns.  I was on a grand jury in DC and it was shocking how many felons are walking free in DC with a gun. They are not apprehended unless the commit another felony.[/quote]

Kid's boss was endorsed by the NRA. Of course criminals aren't going to use legal guns; they have too many easier, cheaper ways to get them, because the NRA and their disciples flood the world with guns. More guns, more firepower, fewer speedbumps to getting a gun. The average legal gun owner has 4-5 individual weapons; there are whole conventions and trade shows with trucks stuffed with guns. So of course it's going to be easy for criminals to get them.

If there were simply fewer guns, fewer criminals would be able to get them. Do you hear about a lot of stolen Ferraris? No. Because there are very few Ferraris compared to Hyundais. This shouldn't be hard, if it weren't for the right-wing death cult. Guns should be rare, expensive, tracked, and have a real-world purpose. Hunting, fine. Target skill shooting, fine. Arsenal for potential gov't overthrow? Insanity. Like the gravy seals are going to go up against the US Army. Deluded. Unhinged. And totally supported by Ron Estes of Kansas. [/quote]

Criminals do not get their guns through lawful channels.

Lock up felons in possession for ten years, plus the local gun possession charge, plus the other associated violations. See how fast the problem goes away. [/quote]

No, they steal them. Which is easy, because there are SO DAMN MANY OF THEM. Reduce the guns, reduce the gun crime. That easy. [/quote]

Very easy-  There are SO DAMN MANY Criminals.  Get them off the streets, HARD, and watch what happens.  Every time you lock up a criminal for legit year's and charges, the crime goes down, because each of them is obviously committing crimes consistently.  Criminals will find a way to get weapons and guns.  Mexican cartels would just get even more powerful if they became the more exclusive supplier of weapons.  Get the criminals, and the crime shrinks.  DC is against this, as well documented on this forum thread.[/quote]

We tried that, though. The US has the largest prison system in the world. (Much of it for-profit, btw, creating an incentive to lock up even more people.)

And it didn't work. I also hate the revolving prison door. But surely you can see that wanton incarceration actually made it worse? Destroyed the very structures that could have prevented a lot of the crime in the first place? I'd be on board with a restructuring of the criminal code, to focus on putting violent criminals away for a long time, and re-directing non-violent criminals to something other than prison. Unfortunately, that doesn't satisfy the right, who likes to cage people they see as subhuman. [/quote]

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