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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Where is UVA?[/quote] Where are Northeastern and Bucknell?[/quote] Northeastern is #220, just below Rice at #219. (There's a Northeastern University in China at #445.) I didn't see Bucknell -- though I stopped scrolling at #638. For context, Dartmouth is tied for #326 with the University of Lagos.[/quote] Really Northeastern (220), Rice (219) and UVA (137)! Go Cavaliers!!!!! Wahoo!!![/quote] I don’t trust the Northeastern ranking…school probably fudged its submitted stats. [/quote] You've got it completely backward. Northeastern is one of the most trustworthy schools. They have been straightforward, open, and transparent, and never accused of cheating like many many other schools. You should be suspicious of schools like Emory, UCBerkeley, Columbia, etc. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/caught-cheating-colleges-falsify-admissions-data-higher-rankings-flna1c8964083 https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/uc-berkeley-booted-from-u-s-news-best-college-list-misreporting/ https://www.wtvr.com/2012/08/19/emory-university-admits-to-12-years-of-falsifying-test-scores https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/16/columbia-whistleblower-us-news-rankings-michael-thaddeus [/quote] It's really weird there have been many schools flat out cheated and got caught. These people never mention that, but pick on Northeastern every single time. Maybe it's just one or two hardcore trolls having a really hard feeling about the school for some reason??[/quote] More because we can count on riling the Northeastern booster every time. It’s like they have DCUM alerts sent to them. Even though Northeastern to this day employs all kinds of tricks to juice their rankings.[/quote] Yes, tactics such as having one of the best retention rates, great graduation rate, high quality student body, amazing outcomes, etc. etc. Your kid at one of the cheater schools or something?[/quote] It has a good retention rate. The other three things are middling for a “top” university.[/quote] Depends on what you mean by "top", however Outcome based on median earning is equal or better compared to many T25ish schools. https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?167358-Northeastern-University #25 including LACs. It's just before the Pandemic when scores were mandatory https://www.businessinsider.com/the-50-smartest-colleges-in-america-2016-10#25-northeastern-university-average-sat-1435-26 Most recent graduation rate is top 30 among national universities https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-rankings/details/GraduationRate6Year It's very under-ranked by the actually important relatively objective metrics.[/quote] Only 24% submitted SAT scores and 7% ACT scores on the most recent CDS. Lol. It might not be in the top 75 if they actually looked at scores for everyone. Its 4 year graduation rate is not that impressive. They don’t report to USNWR (suspicious, especially given their history) but their own data would have them tied for 44th. Lots of fifth years. Have to be good with that or really want the co-op. Those earnings are only for kids that received federal student aid. But still $11k less than a school like BC.[/quote] Again, so the SAT/ACT data is from 2018 when scores were mandatory. Now, tons of more applications from high stat applicants pool. 6-year is industry standard for graduation rate due to considerations such as major change, transfer, study abroad, gap year, 5 year programs, double major, etc. Those earnings data is particularly useful for middle class normal people. Federal aids include any type of Federal loans. Huge portion of middle and upper middle class fall into the category. We don't care about earrings by Obama kid, Trump kid, Bill Gates kid, etc. Rich kids with fancy connections actually skew the data, so it's good thing to eliminate them. Northeastern: $93K Brown: $93K Vanderbilt: $92K UChicago: $92K Rice: $90K Northwestern: $89K WashU: $86K UMich: $84K UCLA: $83K Emory: $80K[/quote] Yeah but now very few that get admitted submit scores so the quality has likely fallen substantially. I doubt they are in the top 50 anymore if you had everyone’s scores. 6-year is not “industry standard.” It’s a common metric but so is 4-year. 6-year measures total ability to eventually graduate, 4-year measures ability to finish “on time” which is especially important for many families as school is expensive. Earnings data is skewed by the proportion of kids at each school that are part of the measurement (it varies a lot from school to school) and especially geographic location of grads. Most of the schools you mentioned are sending a larger portion of their kids to areas other than the northeast. [/quote] Northeastern is not an outlier for current TO policy compared to similar level schools and have similar TO ratio. Very top schools started to switch to test required. Other schools will follow that. Few schools switched to test required at similar level so far. US Department of Education uses 6-year rate and USN&WR uses 6-year rate for its ranking. It's de facto industry standard for reasons. Nothing different for Northeastern who wants to gradate in 4 years. https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/ranking-criteria-and-weights No data is perfect but the data from the US Department of the Education is the best we have. You can get a good idea. [/quote] Yes, at 24% SAT/7% ACT, Northeastern is more like a 50-100 school than anything else. So in that sense it is not an outlier. Same for its 4 year graduation rate, which has it in the mid-40s (USNWR publishes both: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/highest-grad-rate). So I guess we agree that Northeastern is indeed similar to “similar-level” schools if referring to schools in the 45-100 range.[/quote]
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