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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone. [/quote]

Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce.  Be a parent.  Set your own controls.  [/quote]

Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone. [/quote]

I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.[/quote]

Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.

I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience. [/quote]

Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.[/quote]

You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day. [/quote]
Employers really shouldn't be bothering high school students at school, nor should parents.  That can all get handled after school hours.  [/quote]

You clearly don't have an older kid. No it doesn't work this way. Older kids are starting to manage their own schedules, but parents still have a role too. So coordination does need to happen and dr's offices just are not open after school hours. [/quote]

On the one hand: consensus of scientific and education professionals who say that cell phone use in school by teens harms the educational environment for teens, including but not limited to: distraction, bullying, anxiety, depression.

On the other hand: some parents (and all the teens) who want to be able to schedule things with their children.  [/quote]

This is why we know your kids are either very young or you see the world as completely black and white with strict rules.

No one believes anyone should spend all day staring at phones.  We shouldn’t spend all day on DCUM.  Teens shouldn’t spend all day on TikTok or YouTube.

Cell addiction for DCUM, TikTok or YouTube can be a distraction and can get in the way of life.  But most rational people see the value of having access to a phone, when needed and appropriate, at a certain age to manage life without going to draconian lockdown. [/quote]

I posted this and I have both a HS child (YHS) and a MS child.  You phone wanters keep reiterating that only parents with very young children want the ban.   This is not true.  I want the ban and I have kids in APS who can both drive and have extremely complicated schedules that change all the time.  And I work.

I totally agree with you that having a phone makes my child’s life easier and mine.  So I bough them a phone.  I absolutely 100% support them being completely banned at school, during school hours, for all children.  I am willing to take the trade off in convenience for that window in exchange for their educational experience and wellbeing.   [/quote]

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