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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No HS student does perfect work in their first draft.  We just caught a kid that way (among other obvious clues like timing to do it, etc.).  To produce highly polished text requires multiple drafts, edits, corrections, etc.

We challenged this kid to show us his working drafts since he claimed he did the work elsewhere.  He didn't because he couldn't.

Next year, I expect our school to have a formal policy stating that all work will be done in the same document with the editing history available to the instructor.

It's a hard barrier for cheaters to get around.[/quote]

You'd be shocked how many students can bypass this. It's really only hard for first timers.[/quote]

Cutting and pasting sections of text one at a time won't fool anyone.  What else is there if you are importing a perfect document into what should be a series of drafts with imperfections?[/quote]

Why wouldn’t they just type it? Seems very easy to workaround. [/quote]

Because then it's all done in one draft.  No one does a perfect product in one draft.  When a teacher can look at every single revision, they see the evolution of the work with edits and changes.

If each version has 10% of a perfect draft added each time, that's also obvious.

Without those, it's unlikely to be genuine.[/quote]

The way admin allows cheating in this scenario is to give the prompts in advance and the students pre-write their responses and copy they down from their phones or cheat sheets. The students often keep a second device and use that from their laps, or right on their desks at my son’s school because the proctors are not proctoring. Why turn in cheaters when admin does nothing and won’t support teachers trying to shut down cheating

Remember, all these students cheating in HS and college will one day be your future physicians. Think about that. Children that cheat all the way through will possibly have your life in their hands one day in the OR. Comforting thought[/quote]

That is a poorly rum school. All of that is easily preventable.[/quote]

PP’s point is that the school has no incentive to prevent it. Parents aren’t paying for well-run schools, they are paying for schools that confirm their opinion that their kids are smart and honorable. It’s never in a private school’s interest to tell rich and powerful parents that their children are academically average students who cheat. [/quote]

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