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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NYU
Johns Hopkins
Rice
Harvey Mudd
UMich - I heard their Math Honors track is good?
Williams
Swarthmore
CMU[/quote]

My kid is into math - likes both pure and applied. Qualified for USAJMO & USAMO and has a few other activities/achievements in math. Objectively would be among the top 50-100 students for their grade in math.
 [/quote] No, the MOPers would be top 50-100. Each year around 500 qualify for USA(J)MO, and that's not counting the similarly talented students who focused on learning advanced undergrad math rather than math competitions.

There are not many in this small group at places like UMD and UVA - certainly not enough to fill a class so the professor can go at a pace and depth that challenges them. At a place like that, their best option is begging to skip into real analysis/algebra for a challenge.[/quote]

500/4 =125 MO/JMO per grade. Qualifying for both is rarer, suggesting higher level. Getting honorable mention or higher would solidify further. (PP didn’t mention). MO students are all doing advanced undergrad math in addition, with few exceptions.

MOP is “top” 15 per grade. 60 students across 4 grades.

Top math students at state schools will find themselves in classes with older students, but that’s not terrible. They can also take more courses per term, or attempt the harder problems in their textbooks, to increase pace and depth. They will also have plenty of research opportunities because their classmates aren’t interested. They will also find an extra $300k in their pocket, which isn’t bad.[/quote]
State schools can be bureaucratic. There is no guarantee a student can skip prerequisites or overload their first semester, or even afterwards. Usually the textbooks used have a lower ceiling than the ones used at top colleges (e.g. Bartle and Sherbet vs Rudin/Zorich) and the prerequisite chains are longer (e.g. the intro to proofs course requires calculus 2, and real analysis requires intro to proofs, so no freshman analysis)[/quote]

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