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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have a hs senior dd and had similar questions and concerns. From my anecdotal research (speaking with current college students and parents), the social scene at many (but not all) of the top private and public schools is pretty cliquey and dominated by wealthy, attractive, popular kids - often from private/prep schools. You don't have to be blond, but it does help if you are wealthy and attractive. Even girls who are not 'dresssed up' often wear designer jewelry and accessories. Its kind of crazy. These kids have already identified each other on social media before arriving on campus. Duke and Vanderbilt for sure are like this. Rice no, bc no greek and student body is very different. Emory- not as bad. It's not a southern thing. It's a wealthy/private school thing. You don't have to he part of it, but it is good for kids to think about how they can see themselves having fun outside those groups if they prevail on campus. There are plenty of non greek and non girly girls at duke amd vandy, you just have to find your group. I think it's sad, but it's the reality these kids face.[/quote] It is a southern thing. No such culture at Yale, Harvard, even schools like Case Western, Skidmore, Tufts.[/quote] 100% a Southern thing. My kid (stereotypical wealthy, attractive popular kid) is at a NESCAC and was just talking about this subject. UNlike in HS there is no "cool crowd" and that kids who try to be "cool" are joked about as "not real people". There are athletic groups and some "lax bros" but overall she finds things much more chill. I think that the lack of a Greek system helps keep things in check.[/quote] This made me LOL. Your “stereotypically wealthy, attractive, popular kid” is part of a clique that describes students who don’t fit her mold as “not real people,” and she’s holding her school out as socially preferable to a school with a Greek system? You do realize the students who “try to be ‘cool’” just happen to *not* be “stereotypically wealthy [and] attractive?” Stunning lack of self-awareness. As others here have noted, the presence or absence of a Greek system does not dictate how friendly and inclusive the social life on campus will be. [b]As your anecdote proves, the rich kids will usually find a way to congregate and exclude others. [/b][/quote] Speaking on University of Michigan, this is definitely the case. It's a large school with all kinds of people and anyone can find their niche, but yeah...the wealthy kids (esp. those from the coasts) [b]definitely[/b] found each other and had their own little social word. Not a lot of mixing between the kids from Scarsdale and the kids from Cheboygan, let's just put it that way. Or even the kids from Scarsdale and the kids from Birmingham (nice suburb of Detroit).[/quote]
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