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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Getting back on track- does anyone know how MCDL or NVSL came to this guidance? It doesn’t sound like they or any of the pools that they represent had any community meetings or sought feedback on this issue. Given the sensitivity of the topic- that’s a bit concerning parents and communities weren’t allowed to weigh in….[/quote]

NVSL follows USA swimming guidance where it only comes into play at the elite athlete level. Once an athlete is competing at the elate level testosterone levels are checked.

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Based on some of the, now deleted comments, on here I can see why a summer recreational swim league decided to follow a large governing body with decisions based on science vs feeling of parents. I can not even imagine how ugly a community meetings would be or maybe people are just more nasty behind the keyboard.

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Fair point. But if you want parents to give up time in their schedules and volunteer to help at swim meets and other events, it would be nice to feel like our input is valued. It’s a sensitive topic that shouldn’t just be blindly rolled out without considering the community’s input.[/quote]

[b]In any given summer how many trans kids are your children swimming against?[/b] Is it really ruining their summer swim experience?

it is only sensitive if you make it that way. Unless the community is made up of actual medical experts vs parents with feelings I see no need for community input. So you would be cool with trans athletes if you felt your view was heard, even if it changed nothing about the current policy? This post alone show how ugly the community can be, what volunteer wants to sit through that meeting? [/quote]

It takes precisely one trans girl to kick an actual female out of a medal spot. [b]For non competitive summer swim kids this is their only chance to medal in something[/b]. I don't care if it's not the olympics. I am not ok with this.[/quote]

Oh please, all the club swimmer are kicking the non competitive kids out of medal contention. The one trans kid in your division is not the issue.

and has this fake scenario really happend? [/quote]

Everyone has been saying that "Oh please", your little trans kid wants to swim with the girls so they can get that blue ribbon.  People keep saying it's not a big deal so just let us have our way, but if it isn't a big deal let the goldfish go all ready.[/quote]

Someone will always beat your kid who is non competitive. Could be a year round club swimmer, could be a kid who is just physically larger, could be a kid who went through puberty earlier and is a full grown man at 15 (and swimming with the boys), could be a kid with a summer birthday who is on the higher end of the age bracket, but no, lets make this all about the few trans kids swimming in a rec league. What about them angers you so much?

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