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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Liberal arts is in theory a fantastic intellectual foundation for life and a career, but in practice its been wrecked by wokeness.  Everyone recognizes this and is staying away.

If we can reform the liberal arts, it will flourish again.  [/quote]
It did not die out due to wokeness.  Liberal arts degrees have been declining for many years in part due to the growth in the tech sector, and more students majoring in business.[/quote]

And why are people so interested in majoring in "business" which typically not a rigorous degree where you learn boring things that were just picked up on the job by intelligent, well-rounded people years ago without the need for any courses?  Perhaps its all the stories they hear about people signing for literature courses and having to listen to political drivel rather than actually learn to appreciate literature.  [/quote]

People study business because that’s where the money is.  Duh.

Our culture is deeply anti-intellectual.  Our culture worships money above all.  Treating Universities as de facto trade schools (STEM! Business!) does not make for a truly educated populace.  [/quote]
You can't eat education. You need money.

People on here complain about how they can't make it on $200K because of student loans.   Biden used taxpayer money to wipe out billions in student loans.

My tax dollars had to wipe out your loan because you thought "education is more important than a vocational degree".[/quote]

Thanks for being a model American ignoramus, PP.  You’re making my point beautifully.[/quote]

I'm a massive liberal and I thought this was SUPER dumb of Biden.  What he should have done was paid the monthly loan payments for anyone who was:  1) a public school teacher; 2) in the military; 3) a police officer; 4) a firefighter; 5) working for Americorp, Peace Corp or the National Parks service.  [/quote]

Totally agree. Also a lifelong Dem who thought the loan forgiveness plan was horrible. Solve the underlying issue, don't just do a one time payoff that includes a lot of people who don't need the help. I agree that it should have been very targeted (if it was even done) and should have been accompanied by other reforms to the student loan process so it would be more sustainable.

Regarding undergrads studying business, I always get a kick out of kids who are going to schools like most of the Ivies that don't have a formal business program then say they are planning to study business. Don't they know that the school they are about to attend doesn't have a business major? One would think that is kind of important. Yes, at most of the schools you can cobble together a curriculum of econ, sociology and other classes that looks a lot like a business major, but it is not business.

As one who works on Wall Street, I still have a soft spot for the really smart, personable liberal arts majors who hasn't spent all three summers of college doing finance internships but rather is eager to learn and down to earth. I also actually like hiring engineers as well, particularly for roles that are more quant.[/quote]

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