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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don’t get it. This was what it was like when I had my kids in the late 2000s. [/quote] As someone who worked in the late 2000s, we were doing schedule shifts back then to avoid rushes at building entrances. Sounds like they're just trying to get people to quit.[/quote] +1 Also had kids late 2000s. Spent lots of $ on before and aftercare for all of the elementary years, which most of my coworkers haven’t done due to flexible schedules. Also no maternity leave. So there were differences- we didn’t have a set start and end time, and agree that sucks and is punitive- but other things sucked working full time with kids. But yes I agree a defined start and end time is bad for all of us. I might have to look into other transportation options if we go that way. [/quote] I have been in the labor market for 35 years and staggered work start times and AWS has been a major thing for that entire period. There are very few jobs where having everyone in the office at exactly the same hours is beneficial. This is all idiocy.[/quote] Huh. My first federal job at DoJ ran from 1997 to 2001. In that position, I worked closely with clients in USFWS, EPA, Energy, USFS, Dept of the Navy and probably some others. I can think of zero, literally zero, of these (non-admin/non-HR) people in all of those agencies (let's say GS12 and above) who worked from home. Like, none. I know because we'd meet all the time in person downtown. I can think of two EPA scientists who weren't there after 3 pm. Literally everyone else was in the office if we needed a 4 pm emergency meeting. Everyone worked between the hours of 8 and 6. Do I want us to return to that? No. but for the love of god, PLEASE stop the lie that federal RTO is a novelty and WFH or ridiculous AWS like 0600-1400 has been the norm since the Nixon years. Not for the professional class.[/quote]
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