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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We are considering between OOS public university and top10 private university. One of the common advices I received is that [b]public universities will make it difficult for students to get a personal attention and care.[/b] I'm curious how much this is true compared to private universities. Also, another advice I received is that the brand name of the private university will make a difference in the career. I can see this in the case of HYPSM but other top10-20 private schools do really have a brand name recognition and advantages?[/quote] Would you like your student to get tucked in at night?[/quote] An unreasonably high percentage of people here would unironically answer yes to this question.[/quote] Oh please, people are talking about being able to graduate in 4 years as they don’t have to fight for classes they need. Quality and personalized advising for med, law, grad school. Smaller class sizes where you can have closer relationships with profs for LOR, and so on. [/quote] These myths are constantly pushed on this forum. My kids attend large state schools, have had excellent advising, gotten the classes they need to graduate in four years, and have established relationships with professors who have written their LORs for internships, etc. It's clear you have no experience with a great public university, so you continue to push idiotic stereotypes. DP[/quote] My favorite thing about the “graduate in 4 years” BS is that we actually have the data on it. And it shows us that 1) the vast majority of these kids are graduating in four years and 2) top publics tend to do really well, and certainly no worse, than top privates. UVA is number 2 overall at 92%. UNC and UCLA the same as Chicago and Tufts at 86%. Michigan and Florida the same as MIT at 82%. Cal the same as USC at 81%. All of them higher than Brown, Princeton, Cal Tech, Williams, and a whole slate of others. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/highest-grad-rate[/quote] In defense of schools with a larger percentage of students enrolled in Engineering, which requires additional credit hours to graduate, that tends to lower 4 year rates a bit. MIT, Caltech, UCB, Michigan, and some others listed above, fall into that category. [/quote] BS. At the top E private schools (MIT, stanford penn columbia princeton hopkins duke) 4+1 masters/BSE are popular (15%)which affects the “4 year” published rate, but of the students just doing an Engineering undergrad 95% graduate in 4 years. There is no problem getting classes at these schools; the engineering cohort is typically 300-500 undergrads per year the support is phenomenal and it is very rare to get below a C+. Some of these schools have median BSE gpa of 3.7 others have 3.5. These Eschools select for students who can handle 5 classes a semester [/quote] Do you have any evidence for your strange claim that graduating with a bachelor's in 4 years and then graduating with a master's a year later isn't counted as graduating with a bachelor's in 4 year? [/quote]
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