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DHUM, how do we combat this pyramid of lies??? 
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Good question.

I think it helps to try to remain civil. It’s much easier for a person to tune out when they are offended. Easier said than done when they themselves  are being offensive, I know. But I do think a person can be confident that the high road reply is more likely to leave a constructive impression on others, both offenders or bystanders, than the low.

I think it also helps to admit when things could’ve been done better by the Dems. Perhaps Harris’s worst campaign moment was not being able to offer anything she would’ve done differently. In general, people are less defensive about and more trusting of an opposing view when there’s a willingness to acknowledge mistakes. 
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Not PP, but taking the high road is what landed us with Trump. [/quote]

Many things landed us with Trump, but the high road wasn’t one of them.  There was a lot of Dem overconfidence on almost everything, and stubbornness is more low than high. I say this as someone who voted against Trump three times. [/quote]

Dem overconfidence perhaps played a role in 2016. Any Dem who was confident the 2024 election would go in their favor with Joe Biden and his 40% approval rating as the sitting POTUS at the time is a complete idiot who doesn't understand how politics work.[/quote]

The party was clearly too confident of his chances of re-election when it chose to forgo a real primary. [/quote]

There typically aren't "real" primaries for the incumbent party when the incumbent is seeking re-election.

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The point is he shouldn’t have sought re-election. He was a big part of the party, and the rest of the party wasn’t powerless. Hence, the party as a whole was overconfident of his chances, among many other things. [/quote]

The only person I know who had any confidence in Biden's 2024 chances was Biden. We were powerless at the mercy of an unpopular incumbent seeking a second term for which he had every right to do and we had no way of stopping him. We should have considered the likelihood of that scenario playing out before nominating him in 2020.[/quote]

no one else would have beaten trump in 2020...the polling validates the statement.[/quote]

You've just won the idiot of the day award. Howard the Duck, Roger Rabbit, Beavis, Butthead... all could have beaten Trump in 2020. No incumbent with a 40% job approval has any remote chance of winning a US election. You need to re-learn your facts and history and stop being duped by Fox News or whoever convinced of that ridiculous thought. Trump as beatable or even more beatable in 2020 than Biden was in 2024 or Carter was in 1980. Facts.[/quote]

the party of labor abandoned US workers.

And yet it is the democrats that expand immigration which allows companies to stomp on workers , and they wonder why they lose Elections . Focus on US workers first and never lose.

1.Biden refused to mandate e-verify. there is no reason to require corporations to hire US workers. -https://www.governing.com/work/e-verify-creates-loophole-for-undocumented-workers-employers.html

2.Biden helped US companies replace US workers with cheap foreign labor by expanding H1B - https://www.axios.com/2022/01/12/h1b-visa-approval-rate-tech-biden-immigration

3.Biden expanded OPT to new job categories, this helps companies replace US workers with cheap foreign indentured servants - https://www.fragomen.com/insights/united-states-white-house-announces-expansion-of-stem-opt-program-and-other-initiatives-to-attract-stem-talent.html

F1 - Legal system requires F-1 students to remain with employer for approximately 7-12 years

4.Biden proposed to create brand new W-1 visa with unlimited Green Cards, because we mythically don't have enough workers in the US, we devalued a master with H1B, and now we will devalue PhDs with W-1 visas - https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2022/01/27/house-adds-game-changing-visas-for-immigrant-startups-and-phds/?sh=500faa1810be
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“Biden is powerless change the situation on our southern border. . . “

Really?

Isn’t this thread supposed to be about lies? [/quote]

calling Democrats the party of labor.   that is a good one![/quote]

Calling either of our awful two major political parties the "party of labor" in 2025 is a indeed a good joke. We must demand better.[/quote]

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