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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My family growing up was pretty even split of Republicans, Democrats, Independents. I grew up genuinely believing that there are different approaches and philosophies and priorities but ultimately most people have the same objectives and the same level of investment in the nation's future, and probably the same percentage of heroes and zeros on each side.

Fast forward to 2025: I have been listening to Steven Miller and some of the higher IQ people running the show in the Trump administration and am horrified to see how LYING is the key part of the strategy. (Trump has shown his cluelessness over and over -- never more than in the meeting with Bukele when he asked Steven Miller to confirm that the government had won the Supreme Court hearing 9 to 0, like this is a bizarro world soccer game, and ST Miller lied to his clueless face and said yes -- Trump is obviously not in charge.)

Case in Point: Administration thinks a big publicity stunt will terrify immigrants in the US, Americans, and the rest of the world. Goal: create terror, get the unwanted to flee or never come, and rule Americans by fear.

The administration starts out looking for loopholes and disingenous applications of laws, assumes that we are all racists and indifferent and won't care about a bunch of Hispanics, or that a US president makes deals with human rights abusing dictators. It doesn't matter to them that over 90% of this group Venezuelans have no criminal records, that many came to the US legally, and that many are awaiting asylum hearings. The geniuses at the top decide, just focus on tattoos.

When we do notice that the administration has disobeyed the rule of law in a number of ways, they simply start LYING. They pivot on the spot like sociopaths. These are not complex lies or even close to the truth. They are just fabrications.

The less intelligent, who lack all critical thinking (Kristi Noem, Claudia McGlaughlin, Karoline Leavitt, etc), then repeat the lies loudly and confidently.

FOX News et al. present this gang's words as facts and so lies diffuse rapidly through the country.

Suddenly there is a new very loud narrative competing for the public's mind who could simply use Google to discredit or verify.

DHUM, how do we combat this pyramid of lies??? Naive as I am, I have tried using reasoning and facts with posters on DCUM and, when proven wrong, they routinely change the subject, deflect, or simply repeat the lie. The people at the top of the pyramid may be sociopaths, those on the way down powerful fools, and the rest followers. I don't know how to play this game when they totally changed the rules! [/quote]

for US voters, the second most important issue was Immigration.

And Remember when Biden said his hands were tied and there was nothing he could do about the southern border ???   And VP Harris claimed there was nothing she would change about their policies.

137,000 - march 2024
7,000 - march 2025
95% decrease in apprehensions at the southern border

https://x.com/piersmorgan/status/1912159030358798546?s=46

How many other issues were the same ? With Biden ignoring them unable to figure out what to do????

that is why Democrats lost.   [/quote]

Thank you for resonding seriously.

If, as you say, Americans elected Trump to reduce illegal immigration and if the administration were behaving legally, I might dislike it and I might even try to do advocate for different policies, but I would accept the rule of law. I have disliked and disagreed with many past presidents and accepted policies I didn't like. I don't mean I have never protested or complained, sure I have. But it was completely different.

Can you address the fact that the Trump administration is disobeying federal judges and the Supreme Court and disregarding the Constitution? How can you be okay with this?

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