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[quote=Anonymous]No. We don't "need" the dems, a billionaire, or anything else you think we need. What we need is the equivalent to the Sons--but also Daughters--of Liberty. We did not get here just because of trump or the tea party before them or whatever. We got here because we threw away the fairness doctrine, we let corporations in too many tv stations, radio stations, newspapers--and in the last 25 years internet media--even though the internet was created by govt and academic resources that really were publuc assets. We didn't use to have networks identified as right or left.

Tbh as a dem boomer I do not think the dems "went too far" re gender rights. At the same time  I am rethinking the government's role in shaping social change. I would like to figure out stuff like that in terms the founders could understand, and I'd like to figure out the legacy of slavery and colonialism and imperialism in a way they could understand. We need to become citizens rather than partisans. Or, if partisans, a new party. It's only with the re election that I have really thought we are at a precipice. Before I could see the possibility, but it didn't feel like it was looming. 
We don't need "a" leader, we need leaders. We need to be certain people historical pushed to the edge are part if it, but articulating this in terms of principles of society and government rather than as particular causes. Israel and Palestinians became causes not defined by principles.

I was actually shocked (shouldn't have been) by hegseth saying the bombing wasn't about the houthis at all, it was about displaying power. That is a savage and craven concept.

I can't articulate this as I wish I could, I don't quite have the rhetorical skills or deep political understanding (Politics as such, not party or electoral politics). If anyone can point me to a person, author, speaker, whatever who does and can sense what I am trying to speak to, please suggest. [/quote]

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