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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How the hell is any kid diagnosed with ODD allowed to stay in school. The diagnosis is literally just an acknowledgment that the kid does not behave even remotely appropriately and should not be expected by anyone to do so. Outrageous.[/quote] Seriously. I don't know how anyone can look at the symptoms and not understand that. 1. Often loses temper 2. Is often touchy or easily annoyed 3. Is often angry and resentful 4. Often argues with authority figures or, for children and adolescents, with adults 5. Often actively defies or refuses to comply with requests from authority figures or with rules 6. Often deliberately annoys others 7. Often blames others for their own mistakes or misbehavior 8. Has been spiteful or vindictive at least twice within the past six months How can those set of symptoms be accommodated? How can any teacher teach someone with those symptoms? How can any other students learn in a class with someone allowed to do those behaviors? How can any parent blame a school system for not teaching a kid with those symptoms?[/quote] ODD can be misdiagnosed. A child who is not being supported to learn, at all it sounds like here, will act out in anyway she can. I suspect (although obviously I am guessing here) that if the school gave her intensive learning interventions back when she was 5 she might never have received this diagnosis. [/quote] ODD is not a cause of the poor behavior. It’s just a label that says people have given up trying to fix that kid. All ODD cases would have been prevented with good parenting, nutrition, expectations, no drugs, etc.[/quote] While that may be true that is not how things function. Even though many psychiatrists, let alone non-Doctors, don't believe in ODD it is still a part of the DSM and therefore a diagnosis is considered a disability that causes the behavior which then must be accommodated.[/quote] This is where the word “reasonable” comes into play. Only reasonable accommodations are required. Having a kid in a school classroom who literally even according to experts on paper is beyond help is completely unacceptable. I can’t even imagine what the poor teacher and other kids have had to deal with. I would have sued the school district straight away if one of my kids was forced to stay in that class. I believe a judge or jury would side with me.[/quote]
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