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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]People, he is trying to get rid of DEIA (A for accessibility). Hate the IEP process if you want, ask for reform, but getting rid of the DOE is not the answer unless you secretly want to resegregate school[/quote]

You mean put all the noisy kids in one room? Yes PLEASE! [/quote]
This is nasty and ableist. To begin with, having a disability is not one thing. It doesn’t mean someone is loud. It doesn’t mean they’re quiet. Further, having volunteered extensively through more than two decades of parenting, I can tell you that there are plenty of kids without disabilities who are loud and disruptive. And plenty of kids with disabilities who aren’t.

I will also say that I went to a very progressive elementary school that was early to mainstreaming; I think it was extremely beneficial to all of us. We learned inclusiveness, respect, and the inherent value of individuals. Our teachers didn’t have the language and tools that we have today but they had  fantastic insight,  commitment, and understanding that they were instilling us with values of decency and community. Regressing to a world where people with disabilities are hidden away and treated like criminals is barbaric and doesn’t benefit anyone. [/quote]

Forced inclusiveness (yes, it’s often forced due to LRE) is great on paper but it’s not benefiting a child with SN most of the time. Especially in the birth-grade 5 range. Children with SN learn differently especially in the early years. That’s just the way it is. Now a few schools choose programs that are easily utilized by all students, but most do not. If they do get those needed programs it’s usually several years in and after much fighting with the system. Precious Time lost.

Also SN students require more attention and time in the classroom. They also require more paperwork and more communication with parents and other professionals. They require more advanced training and skills that aren’t learned with your typical elementary Ed degree. All these things combined means full inclusion really is not best practice for most kids, at least not in the younger grades.

Teachers cannot have 30 students and be expected to do 8 IEPs and several 504s and teach regular ed. They are different learners. That’s not good or bad but it’s very different. These kids need smaller classes, different programs, individualized attention, more routines, thought given to who they should be in a class with when it is time for inclusion, etc etc. I’m all for inclusion when it actually makes sense. It often takes many years of 1:1 hard work and small group 1:2-1:4 work before that makes sense though.

So you can sit around and dream about a fairy tale world where everyone is just forced to deal with each other and it’s great. Meanwhile I’ll be at Larlo’s house teaching them to talk and follow directions because the mom had to pull them out of public preschool because the other kids were too loud and aggressive for Larlo to pay attention.

Oh and contrary to your beliefs Larlo will not be hidden away in Barbaría. They will get 1:1 private services, will spend preschool years attending weekly play groups and summer camps and clinics and have play dates and when they’re ready they will start school with peers. However when they aren’t ready yet I will confidently say no I don’t think so but let’s work on x,y, z and try again next year. They will learn to read, write, spell, do math, learn science, and history, and even foreign language. They will do these things alone and with peers. They will get faded classroom assistance and eventually the kids will learn to love and embrace and accept Larlo, not because they were disruptive and annoying and the kids learned to deal with it- but because those kids could see how hard Larlo worked and how far Larlo had come. They will learn to respect and admire Larlo for their abilities, not their disabilities.

That’s true inclusion. No IEP required.[/quote]
Re-read the quote I responded to. [/quote]

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