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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Are you also talking about schools like Case Western, Tulane that are not technically in US News's t50 anymore?[/quote] USNWR is what educators, parents, students look to first for a general sense before true research takes place. Anyone can quibble with USNWR methodology, etc. ( funny how people complain when the methodology doesn't suit their preferred school), but any ranking in T75 covers any "slippage." [/quote] Well the USNWR methodology removed Class size from its process a few years ago. Which is shocking, as many of us (smartly) think that smaller class sizes does lead to better educational opportunities. Much easier to learn in a room with 30-40 students where you can actively ask questions than in a lecture hall with 200+. So yes, I will complain when the most recent changes basically moved many smaller (under 8K) private schools down 5-10 spots and put large state schools in their place. Because I know the smaller private schools are actually still better schools. [/quote] Facts. For example I think BC is a better school than a lot of the massive publics currently ranked above it. And Rutgers is a solid state flagship. But Top 50? Please. [/quote] You think BC is better than Cal or UCLA or Michigan? At the end of the day if a school is not currently ranked in the top 50, then it is not a top 50 ranked school. It's pretty simple. [/quote] Exactly. Schools like Boston College and Boston University have been perennial T50 schools before AND after the social mobility changes some people gripe about. Some privates can't adapt and got dinged ( see Tulane and Wake Forest). The privates that can adapt / have adapted to the new USNWR ranking landscape will remain T50. [/quote] I look at schools like Case Western or RPI, which have dropped in the U.S. News rankings and performed poorly in other rankings like WSJ, and I wonder what they might be doing wrong and why their administrations seem unable to adapt. I see it this way: if a school was once ranked in the top 50 and cannot maintain that standing, it suggests that the administration is underperforming and may be failing in other, less visible areas as well. You think with all of the brain power at Tulane and Wake Forest they would be able to figure it out. [/quote]
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