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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I've always been in places with cubicles or offices, no hotdesking, so I honestly don't understand how stuff like these examples function:

[quote]DH's company had that for years in-house, and it was incredibly inefficient compared to people having offices. Constantly rescheduling daily confidential calls because the conference rooms were in use, used too long, suddenly unavailable due to some other priority, and so on. Half the day was spent in endless and pointless logistics instead of work.[/quote]

[quote]Private sector. If you can't get one of the desks in the long line with 1 or 2 monitors you have to float around and just hopefully find an outlet in a common space with chairs and couches that are great for lounging but awkward as hell with a laptop. [/quote]

[quote]We are private sector, but they got rid of offices and our desks are lined up in long rows facing each other to fit in the maximum number of desks. We hot desk, so if you get up for a meeting or to get lunch you lose your seat and have to find a new desk. This way far more people can use the office than the number of actual desks. [/quote]

So, how does work get done? Because if you want me to wander around all day looking for a seat or a conference room, fine, but I'm still going home at 5 whether I got the work done or not. So do private sector folks waste these hours looking for a space, and then stay late to do actual work because they're afraid of getting fired? Because I can guarantee you government workers I know won't do this. If they waste 3 hours of an 8 hour day on this, they are still clocking out and simply lose 3 hours of productivity. And they have protections from getting fired that DOGE can't just wave away as easily as they could theoretically require RTO. [/quote]

I responded earlier, but I think the private sector folks are chiming in to bring home a bit of reality for people. I hope it's not like this for you, but they don't.care. that there are not enough desks or nice desks or desks with monitors or whatever. We need to badge in, so we do. If we stroll through the coveted areas and can't find a place to sit, we park ourselves in a common space and get to work or get on a call. I have colleagues in Paris that are on video calls strolling through the hallways of their La Defense building as they get kicked out of rooms and find a new place to work.

You can go home at 5 and not get your work done, but we have goals and measurements and I wouldn't keep someone on my team who wasn't producing. We know who gets the work done. If your public sector job is not that concrete, and it's just about being online or butts in seats, then it was not very amenable to WFH anyway, I would speculate.

It's noisy and some people have headsets (AIRPODS, man!) that pick up the noise of the person next to them. Everyone is on calls and they don't care what the people next to them are talking about. If you have something sensitive, you go book a conference room. And yes, it's all the way up the chain. Not the CEO since he's in another country, but certainly VIPS are sitting amongst hoi polloi.

Hope that helps![/quote]
Sounds like you just have a crappy private sector job and aren’t very employable elsewhere.[/quote]

You are a miserable person, but that just tracks, doesn't it?
I'd tell you more, but you'd never get into this industry.
Millionaire bonuses. Think biotech. Just trying to help but good luck to you in your RTO. [/quote]

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