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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So I’ve noticed this thing with college rankings and it appears that the universities we consider to be “top” are top because of specifically business and law school rankings ( medical school is a different). With the exception of a handful of privates like Johns Hopkins or Rice, along with the ivies of Princeton and Brown, most universities derive their reputations primarily from just these two subjects.[b] Take UVA for example. Historically, it is not well known in either stem or humanities quite frankly. Just compare their department rankings in economics or history to the more historically prestigious Michigan and Wisconsin. [/b]But, UVA is seen as comparable and even better than those two, based purely on business and law schools. Furthermore, undergraduate selectivity seems to be primarily generated through competitive pre law/pre-mba finance bros. [/quote]

Say what? Michigan and UVA undergrad are neck-and-neck at 21 and 24. Wisconsin is far below at 39.  When you look at the rankings of our nation's top publics, again, you have Michigan and UVA neck-and-neck at 3 and 4 and Wisconsin way down the list. That's evaluated for undergrad performance. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public[/quote]

“Just compare their department rankings in economics or [b]history [/b]to the more historically prestigious Michigan and Wisconsin.”

[b]History[/b]

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/history-rankings

Michigan #2
Wisconsin #11
UVA #18….down there with Duke

Economics

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/history-rankings

Michigan #12
Wisconsin #14
UVA #30….tied with UNC.

In discipline after discipline, both at the undergraduate and graduate levels, I see Michigan and Wisconsin ranked higher than UVA.  Sure there are a few outliers, but

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You said"humanities" not history in your first post. No one says UVA is weak in the humanities. Then you cherry-picked history because it was the only example you could find that might prove your point. FWIW my DD was a history major at UVA. My wife and I were history majors at slacs discussed here. I read DD's syllabi for her UVA history courses. She received a far better education in history at UVA than we did at our slacs. And then she won - out of UVA - with letters of recommendation from her UVA proffessors a full scholarship at Oxford for a Dphil in history. We could not be more pleased with UVA.[/quote]

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