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Reply to "If you are Asian, is it better not to list on your college application under race and leave as "preferred not to state?"
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]they hate asians so much that they keep on accepting them in overwelmingly disppropotionate numbers. reminds me of work, white male colleague/friend worried aloud whether he would make partner as a white male due to firm's commitment to diversity. even though every year the firm overwelmingly elevates white men. the firm had, and has, 1 blk nonequity partner, 1 asian, maybe 2 latin, 1 gay, 30% women partners. meanwhile if a blk lady makes it, it is bc she is blk despite trend suggesting she must have been exceptional. i told him they may not make him partner due to his inability to do math and discern appropriate conclusions from past data.[/quote] Asians may get accepted in disproportionate numbers, but they are even more disproportionately qualified. https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/sat-percentile-ranks-gender-race-ethnicity.pdf It's not even close.[/quote] The colleges determine what qualifies means in terms of admissions to their schools, not the people wanting admission. Just because you say that schools should only focus on tests and grades, doesn't mean that they have to. I can say they should focus on weight and height, and really really mean it, but doesn't mean schools have to believe this.[/quote] This statement seems to assume that Asian students somehow are just robot test takers and aren’t participating in activities that all of these colleges say that they want in holistic admissions. That was completely debunked in the evidence in the Harvard Affirmative Action case where Asian applicants also scored the highest with respect to extracurricular activities. I’m really tired of this common trope that these Asian applicants are rejected because all they’re providing are just grades and test scores without the holistic factors. That flatly isn’t true. Colleges just straight up wanted to depress the Asian share of their enrollment compared to their qualifications (and that includes the holistic factors beyond grades and test scores).[/quote] So now extracurriculars have scores? They don't. There isn't a calculation of this score + this activity + these grades that will get you into these schools. Everyone thinks they have figured out the magic calculation but it doesn't exist. The reason is the schools do not HAVE to admit anyone. They simply don't. [/quote]
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