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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]They should. Parents who allow them in HS are basically permissive and lazy.[/quote]

OP here. Guilty as charged! I'm both permissive and lazy. And I think sleepovers are great for social development and they make my kid happy.  If encouraging close friendship and connection is a crime, I'm guilty!  [/quote]

Thank you for sharing. It sounds like she had wonderful time. One little girl who loves to chat once told me : sleepover= sleep is over

Knowing that, I think sleepovers are overrated when sleep in necessary. Maybe have them in the summer when there is no school [/quote]

If your kid can't bounce back from one day of less sleep, then that is on you.  I think too many mommies plan every move their kids make and leave them useless, anxious, and depressed with no autonomy.  [/quote]

You sound like a hard core supporter of sleepovers to the point that you felt obligated to attack. Achievers don’t enjoy catching a cold or loosing sleep. Different kind of people. Where did you learn about hate? [/quote]

Achievers are that way bc they are born that way and are nurtured throughout childhood.

It’s funny bc I have an achiever and everything she does is big - including socially. She’s definitely a “sleep is for the weak” person and her homebody friends tend to lack energy and imagination. [/quote]

I am cackling at this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Amazing post.  You are a total idiot.[/quote]

Above is not my response. I already responded saying that I am glad your daughter is a superwoman. I just forgot to mention making her close friends look bad as tending to lack imagination. It sounds like she has so much energy. It is great to be an extrovert but introverts are also achievers. It is all good. Anyways just feel good that I did not call you any names. Bye and have a good day! [/quote]

I'm genuinely confused.  Did you or did you not say the following?

Achievers are that way bc they are born that way and are nurtured throughout childhood.

Don’t think it was bc I’m the poster who said that and I haven’t been back until now.

And nothing wrong with introverts - introvert doesn’t mean homebody, why do people mix these up. I was talking about achievers, which I assume to mean people who are driven. Those kids tend to be busy. If someone is introverted but a high achiever, they generally will schedule downtime when they feel they need to. Why would you need to ban sleepovers for that kind of kid? My other kid is like this. She has them occasionally but if she needs down time she’s going to come home.

A kid though who is seeking out those experiences and craving social time isn’t going to change bc their parents want them to be more like the first kid. What about this is so hard to understand. The driven kid is a kid who does hard things out of an intrinsic motivation. Sometimes that’s also a kid driven to be more adventurous socially so shutting down all those opportunities creates maladaptive behaviors like lying, sneaking out, sexual urges like making out with a new boy turn into nude pics instead  etc. Very compliant teenagers are not usually  not achievers bc success does involve some risk in life.

Of course, still parent, and yes of course we all strive for some middle ground. I was responding to some of these people with the hard ban mindset

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