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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Dutch are soccer-obsessed, but they also give a crap about children’s health.

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Has decided to ban artificial soccer fields entirely by 2030, citing potential cancer risks associated with artificial grass. A study found that rubber crumb used in artificial turf contained carcinogenic compounds at levels 1.5–3.7 times higher than allowed in consumer products[/quote]

They classify fertilizer and herbicide as causing cancer. They also pay taxes to maintenance existing fields and create more fields including mowing. If you do not do the maintenance on grass fields including mowing, watering, seeding, fertilizer, herbicide application, aeration and repairs it is a dangerous surface to play on. These grass field need to be rested. [/quote]

It isn't dangerous.  It's just muddy and messy.  We all grew up playing on fields that weren't watered, fertilized, and herbicided.  It builds character.  You've created such a false forced dichotomy that it's impossible to take you seriously - especially when there is decades of data showing that artificial turf fields have much higher rates of injuries.[/quote]
That for professional athletes. Having been around sports(rec and travel) the amount of injuries are much much higher on non maintained grass field is vastly greater vs artificial fields. 
You are just a troll.[/quote]

Just because you're being a shill does not mean that I am being a troll.

Your anecdotes are not very persuasive.  Studies have been done for all levels.   You are correct that there is a shockingly higher level of serious knee injuries for professional athletes but there's also twice as many incidents of ankle injuries in girls youth sports (2007) and higher concussion rates.  What's more it gets worse the longer it's used because a lot of the rubber tire fill goes away over time.

Turf is worse in every way.  Higher rates of injuries, increased heat island effect, and toxic chemicals.  We aren't allowed to throw tires in the trash or bury them in our backyard but shredded tires are ok for youth sports fields?

The only thing turf is supposedly better at is cost and maintenance but frankly I'm skeptical.[/quote]

We were talking about PVC turf, not crumb rubber. Conflating all artificial turf into the same category is deceitful. [/quote]

No we’re talking about PFAs aka forever chemicals
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No evidence has been submitted that the PVC turf contains PFAs. Just fear mongering. [/quote]

Basic chemistry shows that all PVC resins are produced with one form of toxic technology or another, whether it be asbestos, mercury, or PFAS.

Please tell me how the turf is manufactured. Is it with asbestos, mercury or PFAs?

You are spreading misinformation.[/quote]

Industrial products often use toxic chemicals in their manufacturing process. That doesn't mean the end product is contaminated. By your logic, PVC pipes would be poisoning people daily.

Your claim is that the PVC infill is somehow contaminated but have presented no evidence other than a picture of the word PVC. [/quote]

How would PVC pipes poison anyone since they are only used for waste water? You obviously don’t know anything about plumbing yet you are arguing from your uninformed position?

Artificial turf contains residual chemical compounds that are not found on any natural surface. That’s just a basic fact.[/quote]

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