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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The better private universities. Stanford MIT Princeton CMU Duke Rice Northwestern Hopkins Penn Cornell A lot of publics might be better ranked in CS, but it's a pain and a slog getting a degree with so many 500/1000+ intro classes. Berkeley alone has CS classes with more than 1700 students.[/quote] Of that list with CS issues, Cornell ( [url]https://cornellsun.com/2023/01/31/computer-and-information-science-students-struggle-with-course-enrollment-adding-stress-instead-of-classes/[/url] ), Penn ( [url]https://www.thedp.com/article/2019/03/computer-science-classes-coding-ivy-league-upenn-philadelphia[/url] ), Johns Hopkins ([url]https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2017/02/over-500-waitlisted-for-comp-sci-classes[/url] ), Duke potentially ([url]https://www.reddit.com/r/duke/comments/n0905v/duke_cs_concerns_is_it_really_as_bad_as_some_say/[/url] ) and Rice potentially ( [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/riceuniversity/comments/4h32r9/how_is_rice_cs/[/url] ). [b]It has been a nightmare at DC's college, Umich, [/b]and I am very pessimistic about colleges ability to change this.[/quote] Can you elaborate? DC (rising senior) has never had issues with getting a class he wanted, is on track to graduate this semester with a minor. Several of his friends have already graduated (in 3 years) without issues. [/quote] Hey, DC just graduated from Mich! It's not a graduating issue, but likely a fit issue. He chose to go to a university, because he was advanced in computer science and wanted grad-level coursework/PhD (and the support wasn't great also takes forever for office hours in some courses). By his junior year, the courses he was looking to take all were immediately gone with long waitlists, and he felt like he was still scrambling after underclassmen years. It's definitely softening after first year admission restriction changes. By the time he wanted to try out grad school courses, he was met with a lot of resistance and realized it wasn't going to happen.[/quote] Entering UMich student for the fall and also having a really terrible time with the basic STEM classes kid wants. Like there is not even a waitlist. All honors classes completely full, no waitlist. Can’t take prerequisite intro classes. And he’s entering with a lot of AP credit so not sure what to take. For the high OOS price he may just transfer after this first year. [/quote] So I take it your kid completed the intro advising session. Since your kid may have done that, and is unsatisfied, what next steps have you or your kid taken to ensure a better schedule? Serious question. Did you go to Orientation? When my family did, it was made clear that you can get follow-up advising appts. You can also talk to advisors for majors, and there are special ones for pre-med. Want an Honors class but can't get one? Maybe you can do honors independent study? Have you looked at Freshman Seminars? Those are not honors but they are meant to be enriching and collegial for 1st years. My kid was told to keep checking back for random openings if needed. So those might be possible. Also, if you think your kid might need to add/drop a lot, try to move in as early as possible so they have more reaction time and are fully ready for the 1st week of classes. They should try to sit in on filled classes to talk to the prof. I would recommend seeking advice on r/umich before this site, but if you post the major, maybe I can think of another resource or two. U of M students are quick out of the gate. I've been reminding my incoming freshman that he has to be more attentive. He learned this from an unrelated summer job interview process too...waiting 2 days to book cost a month's time in getting an interview. Also consider what a weird year this was for the FAFSA. Summer melt is probably still happening. And some classes may get added in August. Good luck sorting things out to your kid's satisfaction.[/quote] I’m a former UM Honors student and the mom of a current Honors student. I hear you on the lack of honors classes. It was much better when I was there. We had great profs and great TAs, and there were lots more Honors sections offered. That said, my kid has still loved being at UM. Even though she’s not the go-getter to somehow make sure she takes advantage of everything. So I want to reassure you that it can still be alright, your kid can probably get what he wants with some perseverance (show up to class and ask to be let in) and even if he doesn’t do that, he can still find ways to fall in love with the school. [/quote]
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