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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wake in a landslide [/quote]

Yes, Wake.
Wake has a much more academic vibe, and is most similar to an elite/T15 (and was commonly T25 until USnews took all importnat metrics out of rankings). UGA and Tulane are not close to Wake considering outcomes(MD, Law, other grad placement, careers).[/quote]

The fact you have to reference the rankings and somehow explain why they are wrong makes it plain that you care far too much about those exact rankings.

If Wake was similar to a T15…it would be ranked in the T15 which actually didn’t lose their rankings at all.

Everyone…stop crying about the rankings.[/quote]

No one is crying about the rankings; they just ignore them now because they actually care more about factors like how many kids from top of HS class and small class sizes, versus DEI outcomes.[/quote]

It's really funny watching people cling to the "old" rankings, yet also trying to convince others to ignore the "new" rankings. You don't get to have it both ways. Either the rankings have always been a crapshoot, or you need to accept the new formula. [/quote]

Actually no.   The new are only relevant if you highly value performance and percentage of Pell grant eligible and first gen.  If you care about factors like class size and who is teaching the class, the old are better.  [/quote]

People blindly trusted USNWR rankings when it was convenient. Let’s not pretend they were ever college experts. [/quote]

Rankings were based on quantifiable measures of academic achievement and desirable aspects of a college experience for me before. I am not interested in how a child how is 1st Gen will do. I know others are interested in that. [/quote]
This is stupid. A college that can graduate and support 1st gen students is likely doing amazing for your average student. You have to have on-campus resources that are reliable and helpful for students who are first gen to get through. So yes, you should care, because that stat means your child has more resources on campus. The ivies are undoubtedly one of the best places for a first-gen student to go to college. Berkeley, a massive state school, also happens to be one, because they invest heavily into supporting and recruiting first gen students and, oh yeah, Berkeley has world class resources for all students.[/quote]

It is not "stupid" to not be focused on 1st Gen students and affordability of college if that is not my interest. I care about the caliber of the other students and the job pipeline and the teaching is done my faculty with terminal degrees and not TAs. Not how many Pell grants are handed out and how many 1st gen students you graduate.[/quote]

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