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I'm a ref. …I did ask for some feedback. … Feedback is the only way we get better. Sure, parents give feedback, but usually not in an objective and helpful way.  ...[/quote]

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Never talk to a ref, I couldnt give 2 $h*ts what you think as a parent. If you think you can do better, take the course and get out of the fields and ref yourself.[/quote]
Taking these comments together, does  this mean parents by definition should not give feedback directly to a ref at all no matter how polite or constructive they think their comments may be? Can they still give feedback to someone else? What about positive feedback, or feedback not actually related to soccer (ex. ref showed up really late, or showed up drunk, says racist/islamaphobic/biased things, etc.)

I don’t have an agenda by the way, just honestly want to know. [/quote]

How are you not getting this?  Parents under no circumstances should ever have any interaction with the referees pre, during or post match...if they're walking off the field and walk by you and you give them a "good game ref" that's fine, but anything outside of that should NEVER happen.

Can they still give feedback to someone else? why do you feel the need that you have to give feedback or comments? if a parent just absolutely has to give someone their opinion, give it to their coach.

What about positive feedback, or feedback not actually related to soccer (ex. ref showed up really late, or showed up drunk, says racist/islamaphobic/biased things, etc.) - if something like this happens, you should tell the coach and they'll know what to do.  If you, as a parent, get involved you're only going to escalate the situation and make it worse not better.[/quote]

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