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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why do people look at scattergrams? Why do people look at the CDS for stats? Why do people look at 25,50 and 75 percentiles for test scores for admitted students?

You know why. [/quote]

Because those are the only quantitative data points given.  It doesn’t mean they are as paramount as is often assumed.   [/quote]

Wrong. I have heard at Tufts, Gtown, UVA, and Yale that the first stop is the transcript. It is THE most important. YCBK has said it many many times in the podcast. It matters.[/quote]

This. The Transcript is number 1, and that means what courses taken compared to what is offered at the school, not a count of the total APs. High rigor in all 5 core areas and still a top GPA in the context of the high school gpa scale. Gpa out of context is fairly useless. SAT is not nearly as important as the transcript. 
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I think we've veered off course here. Maybe OP didn't phrase well initially.  No one disputes that GPA is the first stop. But, that doesn't preclude the objection to people asking for stats.  Stats are a hurdle, not a fine tuned marker. I think OP was saying that asking stars is useless because anyone in has the stats plus other things![/quote]

+1. I’m not OP, but so many of the negative responses use a straw man argument.   Yes, of course a 2.9 GPA 1150 applicant is unlikely to make be admitted over a 4.0/1580.  But that isn’t the example OP used. They used 4.0/1600 vs 3.6/1450.  I think OP’s point is that based on those 2 things alone, we have no idea what a college would prefer because at that point, they’d be looking primarily at other things.  E.g., the specific transcript in the context of the high school and class, ECs, recs, character indicia, etc.  So the calls on DCUM for “Stats, please” are pretty pointless.  Huge numbers of applicants with qualifying “stats” will not get in over many others with lower ones because of these other factors.  GPAs just don’t translate.  Tests can help calibrate to some degree, but colleges (unlike some on here) know the limitations of standardized tests.    So referring to your 3.9/1550 applicant just tells us they are in the ballpark for a rejective college.  It doesn’t tell us that that candidate is better than a 3.7/1480 without knowing a lot more.

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This is also why it’s important/ determinative to know [b]which high school & who else from hs applying[/b]…..
All matters more than pure statistics alone.[/quote]

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